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Poor Paul Murphy - please read the OP before posting

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    #182
    NattyO
    Registered Users Posts: 340 ✭✭NattyO


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120522597#Comment_120522597

    Like most "socialists" in Ireland, Paul is as solidly upper middle class as one could hope to be.

    Grew up in Goatstown, dad was a senior exec in Mars, uncle an RTE man, did the leaving in a points mill, went to UCD, got a degree in law, and then a gig in the European Parliament.



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    #183
    ZeroThreat
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120522634#Comment_120522634

    He was parachuted into Joe Higgins seat in europe too iirc, then failed to retain it when he had to actually take part in the election process a few years later. Like all good phoney champagne socialists (as with uncle Bilbo in the phoenix park) he has a talent for collecting pensions over his political career.



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    #184
    TomTomTim
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120522581#Comment_120522581

    Nearly every news story too has in the headlines, like it's highly relevant. It's an obvious attempt to evoke emotions, "evil far right protest outside of home of a family with a new born baby. Fortunately, the baby wasn't eaten by the Nazis".

    “The man who lies to himself can be more easily offended than anyone else. You know it is sometimes very pleasant to take offense, isn't it? A man may know that nobody has insulted him, but that he has invented the insult for himself, has lied and exaggerated to make it picturesque, has caught at a word and made a mountain out of a molehill--he knows that himself, yet he will be the first to take offense, and will revel in his resentment till he feels great pleasure in it.”- ― Fyodor Dostoevsky, The Brothers Karamazov




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    #185
    Ashbourne hoop
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    Protesting outside any politician's house is out of order, no excuse for it. Everything else is whataboutery.



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    #186
    [Deleted User]
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120522549#Comment_120522549

    So I posted on one thread about a rape scene in a movie, and you've turned that into me being someone who

    "talks so regularly about believing women" ??

    I did not mention the "Me Too" movement or "believing women" either, so your claims that this is something I regularly post about are not only ridiculous but completely false.

    Also, for the record, I doesn't matter to me what your opinion of my opinion of Joan Burton is. There was evidence that showed her to be a liar, as was her assistant. My personal opinions are not open for debate.



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    #187
    [Deleted User]
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120522581#Comment_120522581

    Paul mentioned that he and his wife were about to give their baby a bath.

    Extending that to making rude comments about the baby's name and gender here are disgusting and unnecessary, and has nothing to do with the topic of protestors outside PM's house.

    Anyone who brings a small child into it to ridicule their parent, is low, imo.



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    #188
    elperello
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    So to sum up a lot of posters think it's ok to protest outside the home of a politician they don't like.



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    #189
    Guildenstern
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120522676#Comment_120522676

    Is he going to struggle to get re-elected? His profile is high and of the far left, he and Boyd Barrett appear to have the most name recognition. The latter though does seem genuinely liked in his constituency, but is Murphy? SF running 2 candidates in these urban areas must surely have a knock on effect, and you would think the candidate most likely to have been the last candidate elected, to be in most peril.



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    #190
    TomTomTim
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120522790#Comment_120522790

    This is the worst of boards in a single post. I don't think that one person has said that or even hinted at it, yet you're claiming a lot of us have? This place would be so much better if posters weren't allowed to blatantly misrepresent/lie about what people are saying.

    “The man who lies to himself can be more easily offended than anyone else. You know it is sometimes very pleasant to take offense, isn't it? A man may know that nobody has insulted him, but that he has invented the insult for himself, has lied and exaggerated to make it picturesque, has caught at a word and made a mountain out of a molehill--he knows that himself, yet he will be the first to take offense, and will revel in his resentment till he feels great pleasure in it.”- ― Fyodor Dostoevsky, The Brothers Karamazov




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    #191
    tesla_newbie
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    Paul Murphy has nothing to offer bar fantasies, unfortunately he does get a massively disproportionate amount of media exposure so there probably are enough naive young fools to ensure he holds his seat



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    #192
    Stark
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120522833#Comment_120522833

    You obviously haven't bothered to read the thread if you missed the pages of posts from "thinkaboutit" explicitly arguing in favour of protesting outside policticians' homes. Also, I counted two other posters chiming in in favour. So you're the one misrepresenting what people are saying in this instance or at the very least, not bothering to read more than one post back.



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    #193
    TomTomTim
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120522936#Comment_120522936

    One poster, and even if there was two who agreed with them, is not "a lot", it's a few, and I personally didn't see those posts, so no I haven't mispresented anything.

    “The man who lies to himself can be more easily offended than anyone else. You know it is sometimes very pleasant to take offense, isn't it? A man may know that nobody has insulted him, but that he has invented the insult for himself, has lied and exaggerated to make it picturesque, has caught at a word and made a mountain out of a molehill--he knows that himself, yet he will be the first to take offense, and will revel in his resentment till he feels great pleasure in it.”- ― Fyodor Dostoevsky, The Brothers Karamazov




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    #194
    nullzero
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120522558#Comment_120522558

    Do you believe the actions that Paul Murphy engaged in during the Jobstown protest were justifiable?

    Glazers Out!



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    #195
    [Deleted User]
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120522906#Comment_120522906

    Maybe you're okay with that kind of behaviour, but in my opinion, anyone who uses a baby as an opportunity to make cheap shots at their parent needs to take a good long look inwards.



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    #196
    nullzero
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120522790#Comment_120522790

    I wouldn't agree with that.

    Some people seem to think locking other politicians in their cars is acceptable though.

    Glazers Out!



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    #197
    nullzero
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120522734#Comment_120522734

    As a human being, did she deserve to be subjected to being locked in her car with people throwing missiles at said car whilst being directed by a fellow politician?

    Glazers Out!



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    #198
    lmao10
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    How surprising that the same "I'm not far right" posters would always seem to come out defending the far right loopers who do these things.

    It's just totally shocking to see because these posters are so smart at covering up their far right bias and support.



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    #199
    [Deleted User]
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120522977#Comment_120522977

    In case you're unaware, this thread is about protesters turning up and protesting outside a public representative's home.

    I've already stated I'm done discussing Joan Burton, who wasn't subjected to a protest at her home.

    The possibility of TD's coming face to face with protestors in public places in the course of their job is a known risk of the role they signed up for.



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    #200
    Kyokushin Grappler
    Registered Users Posts: 116 ✭✭Kyokushin Grappler


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120522634#Comment_120522634

    As Kevin Sorbo once said to George Clooney "It's easy for you to be a Socialist when you're already rich."



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    #201
    Dav010
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120523008#Comment_120523008

    No, she was trapped in a car while a mob surrounded it, shouting at her, one of whom was Paul Murphy. You lose your **** and post hundreds of times about Enoch Burkes behaviour, but it’s ok for mob to frighten a female politician and trap her in her car. Go figure.



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    #202
    nullzero
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120523006#Comment_120523006

    Who's defending these "far right loopers" exactly? I'm guessing it should be easy demonstrate.

    Glazers Out!



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    #203
    [Deleted User]
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120523131#Comment_120523131

    And as I said, which you didn't quote, a TD coming into contact with protestors in public places is a risk of the job they signed up for.

    Her being a woman is irrelevant in that. Wouldn't want anyone accusing me of a gender bias there.

    Now, are you done with the personal attacks? Because it's getting boring.



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    #204
    nullzero
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120523008#Comment_120523008

    Don't try to pull that guff with me.

    Paul Murphy orchestrated the situation at the Jobstown protest so it's very much relevant to this conversation.

    He's happy to intimidate others when it suits him. I'm against these people protesting outside his or anyone else's home but Paul Murphy has form for crossing the rubicon himself that's why it's being raised.

    Its noted that you sidestepped the question about the morality of what happened to Joan Burton in the Jobstown protest though.

    Glazers Out!



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    #205
    TomTomTim
    Registered Users Posts: 2,841 ✭✭✭TomTomTim


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120523131#Comment_120523131

    "There's no bad tactics only bad targets". Their outrage is never based on principles and always based on power. They don't care what their side does once they don't lose any power from it. It's the very reason for outrage itself, as fake outrage is a way to stop or suppress anything that they don't like.

    “The man who lies to himself can be more easily offended than anyone else. You know it is sometimes very pleasant to take offense, isn't it? A man may know that nobody has insulted him, but that he has invented the insult for himself, has lied and exaggerated to make it picturesque, has caught at a word and made a mountain out of a molehill--he knows that himself, yet he will be the first to take offense, and will revel in his resentment till he feels great pleasure in it.”- ― Fyodor Dostoevsky, The Brothers Karamazov




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    #206
    Boggles
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120523185#Comment_120523185

    Paul Murphy orchestrated the situation at the Jobstown protest

    He did in his eye, the protest had already started he jumped on the bandwagon.

    I've never met anyone who has claimed to like him let alone voted for him, but for him and others to be charged with kidnapping or whatever trumped up charge over it was beyond shameful, a case that should have definitely been independently reviewed after the verdicts.



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    #207
    [Deleted User]
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120523185#Comment_120523185

    It's noted you have sidestepped and haven't acknowledged that you were completely wrong in your claims about me being a regular poster on the subjects of "Me Too" and "believe women".

    I haven't sidestepped anything. Shame I have to repeat myself, but I stated early on in the thread that I think Joan Burton got what was coming to her that day, and why. I stand over that. The woman is a proven liar and was a disgrace as Minister for Social Protection who did an awful lot of harm to the very people she was supposedly showing up to show "support" for. She reaped what she sowed. Part of her job. **** happens.

    But no one targetted her home for a protest. Which is what is different here.

    I also stated that I have no love for Paul Murphy. I believe he is fake. But his home, his wife and most definitely his newborn child, should be off limits.



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    #208
    [Deleted User]
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120523367#Comment_120523367
    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120523172#Comment_120523172

    LOL, predictable response.

    You must have missed this post which I have quoted for you, where I noted that her gender in doing her job is irrelevant.

    Which begs the question, who is actually being sexist here? Would you have been so concerned if it was a male TD in the car that day?

    I doubt it. Check your own sexism.

    (eta) also nice ninja edit to shoehorn in another comment about Enoch Burke, and to make an attack on a couple of newborn parents.



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    #209
    Dav010
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120523418#Comment_120523418

    Absolutely. Irrespective of gender, being trapped in a car with that crowd around it must have been frightening, for anyone. Her experience was far more serious than Paul Murphy’s.

    But I bet if it was a transgender politician in that car, you would be far more sympathetic.



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    #210
    Boggles
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120523438#Comment_120523438
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    She looked terrified, much like Murphy she tried to turn it into political gain.

    She was torn to shreds when she took the stand in the trial.

    Labour behaved atrociously in the coalition and were rightly decimated into oblivion.

    Doesn't excuse anyone throwing stuff at her though.



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    #211
    Dav010
    Registered Users Posts: 14,488 ✭✭✭✭Dav010


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120523478#Comment_120523478

    Ya, I wouldn’t be looking at someone holding their middle finger up the the window beside me either, I’d be trying to show him that I wouldn’t be intimidated, even though I am.



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