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Future and potential Star Wars films - news and speculation

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,598 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    One thing the Rey movie has going for it is that, regardless of her taking on the Skywalker name at the end of the last one, this isn't part of the "Skywalker Saga"; the trilogy of trilogies. It's no longer beholden to being part of that story. They now have greater freedom to use Rey to help shepard in the new Jedi Order and what the Jedi will be facing going forward.

    Rian Johnson almost helped do the same thing by having Rey not be from a special lineage, until JJ Abrams came in and said "No, she's a Palpatine..... but now she chooses to be a Skywalker!" Hopefully now she's able to just be her own character. Her character had potential until she got saddled with carrying the Palpatine & Skywalker lineages.

    One thing they need to do though is make some advancements in the tech used. All the displays for computers, targeting systems etc are blocky Atari-type graphics with no detail. It's been about 80 years since Episode 1. Advance the tech. You already have perfect holograms, you can't have a computer display with more than 10 pixels?



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    For sure AntMan isn't a success, and possibly won't figure in the top 10 by year's end... But like I said there's other stuff coming that more than likely will. Disney's a behemoth and it'd take a real succession of true bombs to call It a crisis. I daresay they never wanna be a in a situation like the mid 80s ever again.

    Ah no, the lo-fi analogue aesthetic is a cornerstone of Star Wars imo.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,598 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    I just find it laughable at this stage. Absolutely perfect holograms beamed across the galaxy and displayed on a device you can hold in your hand. And ships have displays like this:




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,932 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    That's part of the charm.



  • Registered Users Posts: 9,874 ✭✭✭buried


    Yeah the pathetic writing and non existent character archetype that nobody can relate to isn't the problem.

    Its the displays on the ships you see for two seconds, that's really what the problem is.

    "You have disgraced yourselves again" - W. B. Yeats



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,598 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Calm down, I'm mostly just joking. Just find it funny.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Naw. I think you remove the lo-fi from Star Wars, you remove a key part of its charm and identity.



  • Registered Users Posts: 9,874 ✭✭✭buried


    No need to tell me to calm down man, I find this whole hyped franchised debacle genuinely hilarious!

    "You have disgraced yourselves again" - W. B. Yeats



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,930 ✭✭✭nix


    Perhaps we can get a prequel movie or show to cover why the display for the computers/screens are never advanced 🤔😄



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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,132 ✭✭✭thegreengoblin


    Slightly off topic, but anyone know if Return of the Jedi is being shown here as part of the 40th anniversary release? Seems to be US and UK only from what I can see.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,932 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    It'll probably be the shitty special ed version.

    No way I'll pay money to see that again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,306 ✭✭✭✭Drumpot



    The worst part of the special edition was adding the “noooo” at the end. I always thought Vaders head turning to watch Palps barbecue Luke was far more powerful as he said nothing but you just knew the conflict in Vader.

    I can’t remember which other bits were changed but that one always stuck out as it ruined the end.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,932 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    There's so, so, many bad parts to the special eds Drummer.

    If you haven't done so already, there's a lad called Harmy that rejigged all the original films into their original state. You can do a search for them and torrent them. I think they're in a grey area of legitimacy, cos they're technically fan edits.

    But they're so satisfying. Unfortunately they're only 720p, but they upscale well because their bitrate is decent.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    The "Harmy's Despecialized Editions" are excellent, and really, the only "true" way to watch the Original Trilogy these days. The ironic thing of course is that the 1990s CGI additions have aged even worse than the original 1977 FX ever did; so we're left with these as the only legally available versions out there. Madness.

    I do still love the idea that Jabba the Hutt was originally just some Irish-accented guy in a bunch of furs.



  • Registered Users Posts: 7,043 ✭✭✭conorhal


    Ahem


    Might I encourage you to look into something called 'Project 4K77'

    Harmy is a fine lad but his despecalised editions are more of a recreation than restoration. As true full restorations from original prints scavanged from around the world go.. I don't think you'll find a better copy of the OG trilogy.

    https://www.thestarwarstrilogy.com/project-4k77/

    FAQs

    Is this an upscale?

    No, 97% of project 4K77 is from a single, original 1977 35mm Technicolor release print, scanned at full 4K, cleaned at 4K, and rendered at 4K.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,932 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    I've that as well. But TBH, I prefer Harmy's effort. I found the picture to be far more pleasing than the SW774K version.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,132 ✭✭✭thegreengoblin


    Ah it wasn't even for me, it's the young lad who has never seen it in the cinema. I wouldn't deny him that pleasure. But looks like it's not being shown anywhere.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    Just watched the Aardmann one. Was very funny. Felt very Wallace and Gromit.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,643 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    I seem it the 90s in the cinema and that was good enough for me. I woukd never ruin that experience by going to an interior cinema now. I actually think the quality of cinemas over the last two decades has decreased very badly or maybe its just because I am older lol.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,262 ✭✭✭Spon Farmer


    The rumour mill is claiming that Dave Filoni’s crossover movie will feature Han & Leia with Alden Ehrenreich and a new actress.

    I don’t know why the people who started the rumour didn’t also claim Luke would be in it.

    I doubt it is true though.

    I really do want to see some new adventures for the original heroes both in live action and animation and I’m fine with recasting for stories in the years after ROTJ.

    So who you folks pick to play a young Luke & Leia in their mid to late 20s?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,178 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    The new dates for the release of the new Star Wars movies are…

    May 22nd 2026

    December 18th 2026

    December 17th 2027.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,071 ✭✭✭✭wp_rathead


    The High Republic is best thing in contemporary Star Wars bar Andor and the final 4 episodes of Clone Wars.

    No surprise when Cavan Scott, Claudia Gray and Charles Soule are involved - they're the 3 people id trust with Star Wars stories going forward personally.

    Can't wait for Phase 3, I enjoyed "prequel Phase 2" (particularly Path of Vengeance & the comic "The Nameless Terror") but carrying on with majority of the characters from Phase 1 is what I'm looking forward to.

    I enjoyed the Thrawn Ascendancy trilogy aswell- read somewhere Filoni liaised with Zahn for Ashoka series but we'll see, Filoni has a habit of ignoring the books.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,865 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    Doing the Same Thing Over and Over Again and Expecting Different Results, hmmm



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,178 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    Donald Glover and his brother Stephen have come on board and are developing the Lando series for Disney+ and Lucasfilm after the previous show runner left.




  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Damnit Disney, has Obi Wan and Boba Fett not taught you anything? Donald Glover is a very talented artist so there's a chance, but while Andor itself was the exception it's increasingly proving to be the exception of the rule.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,932 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    It's astonishing. It's like there's a selection of sweets in front of Disney execs and they continually ignore strawberry, caramel and chocolate in favour of the rank smell of rotten fish flavoured sweet that everyone else knows is a bad idea.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    I suspect here the presence of Glover is keeping it alive; can't imagine if it didn't have a fairly well respected and successful artist it would still be alive. Mind you, may yet be killed off given Bob Iver's recent comments about Disney's output



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,932 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    Can't say I've ever been that impressed by Mr. Childish. He was just alright in 'Solo', but there's a film that's the very definition of something that should never have gotten past the original idea stage. Someone with a bit of sense should have vetoed that on day one.

    The issue here with this is, yet again, Disney are going back to the well and drawing up OT characters and their history with them has been appalling, to say the very least. Plus, I have absolutely no desire whatsoever to see Ehrenreich back as Han Solo, which is almost inevitably going to happen if this goes ahead.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Oh yeah fundamentally this is about Disney apparently incapable of learning lessons - though like I said Iger seems to indicate the saturation might be lessening soon, so this project may yet be a dead prequel walking. Mind you, with the Strike active nothing's happening either way, so the entropy of enthusiasm may yet kill this.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,178 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson




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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    If this all gets in the way of that Community movie supposedly in the works, I'll be miffed.

    Who the F even wants a Lando movie? Who's gonna be fooled after ... how many Legacy Sequels have flopped at this stage? Bob's Fett, Solo, Obi Wan, Indiana Jones... oh but this time the Lando movie will strike gold 🙄😆



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,470 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    I was sure it started as a movie back when Solo released then moved to a Disney+ series when they started doing those. So is it set to be a theatrical movie or Disney+ movie?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,932 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    When will they fucking learn?



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    You'd think Indy 5's utter failure would have had a cooling, chastening effect on these Legacy adaptations, yet here we are.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,297 ✭✭✭Count Dracula


    Is there no scope for a Leia prequel at this point? It could involve some early Empire dominance and how the rebel resistance was formed and the catalyst behind it. I respect that this was touched on with the Death Star plans movie, but I think that is where the future movie production lies.

    The main problem the franchise faces is that the storylines require elaboration away from bad vs good. Some of the best concepts derive from what enabled certain motives behind the " bad guys " .

    It would be a brave move, but a metaphorical satire on imperialism delivered through the eyes of a hard working family orientated Storm Trooper, with a wife and kids, would be potentially ground breaking and would cast a new perspective on the modern dynamics and reality of war.

    Given that its most loyal audience would be all well over 45 years old, it would be an inspiring move and could work?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,076 ✭✭✭xper


    Andor is covering a lot of this ground. And very well too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,809 ✭✭✭satguy


    A new Star Wars movie focused on Rey would be so cool.

    We hear that it may happen, Rey teaches a new apprentice how to fight, and how to use the force. Would be even better if the new apprentice turns out to be LGBTQ.

    Disney has been at the fore, in portraying strong non male lead characters for the last while now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,821 ✭✭✭Relikk


    Then the apprentice turns on her, destroys her temple and she buggers off to an island, depressed and cuts herself off from the force. I mean, it's entirely possible. People change in the space of 15 years, after all.

    The Rey movie is facing an uphill battle from the off. Half of the Star Wars fanbase despise the sequels and have little to no interest in anything related to them, and certainly not for anything that comes after them. That's a lot of people, in the fanbase that it's aimed at, not paying any money to see your movie. Unless they can make it for around 100-150m it's going to flop, hard, and we all know Disney don't make "cheap" movies with their acquired IP's.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,590 ✭✭✭Homelander


    A Lando prequel movie, not sure what they smoked in that pipe but given Solo was a flop, do they seriously think Lando would be a sleeper hit or what.

    Re: Rey movie, Rise of Skywalker was so bad it killed my interest in that timeline stone dead. Daisy Ridley is good as Rey but that's about it. I consider the shows, prequels and OT canon but I find it hard to consider the sequel trilogy as anything other than bad fanfiction. To be fair Book of Boba Fett is also pretty bad and they really did the character dirty with that.

    They should just make a new trilogy set 100 years in the future and take it a new direction. The sequel trilogy had the potential to be good but the lack of planning and rehashing turned it into an incoherent mess.

    The Last Jedi was an oil and water mix of fantastic and awful, but at least Rian Johnson had the balls to reject the memberberries and try and move on to bigger things and better themes. I respect him very much for that at least.

    If he had made the third film we would have gotten a decent trilogy overall.



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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Rey will entirely depend on the script. How many of us rolled out eyes at Andor, initially cynical about it being a prequel to a character broadly forgettable? I know I did, and sure look how wrong that sniffing turned out to be.

    Though increasingly Andor seems like the exception proving the rule. Tony Gilroy was always a helluva jammy get; plus a TV series probably had way more latitude than yet another product from the blockbuster mould. And at least a Rey movie shows some willingness to actually move on from the Skywalker stuff - assuming you decide to ignore Episode IX's revelations that is lol.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Not sure if it was an open secret, but Guillermo Del Toro admitted that he had been working on a Star Wars project: "The Rise and Fall of Jabba the Hutt". I mean if del Toro was gonna pick an existing Star Wars character, Jabba and his exotic entourage would have been entirely on-brand for the man

    We had the rise and fall of Jabba the Hutt, so I was super happy. We were doing a lot of stuff, and then it’s not my property, it’s not my money, and then it’s one of those 30 screenplays that goes away. Sometimes I'm bitter, sometimes I'm not. I always turn to my team and say, “Good practice, guys. Good practice. We designed a great world. We designed great stuff. We learned.” You can never be ungrateful with life. Whatever life sends you, there's something to be learned from it. So, you know, I trust the universe, I do. When something doesn't happen, I go, “Why?” I try to have a dialogue with myself. “Why didn’t it happen?” And the more you swim upstream with the universe, the less you're gonna realize where you're going




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,932 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    Oh dear. That sounds so bad on so many levels.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    With DelToro it would have looked good though; these bland as F TV shows are sapping my interest in this universe 'cos nobody wants to actually try and use their imagination.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,932 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    Maybe. But Gizmo's movies leave cold. Although I hear his 'Pinocchio' was a great effort.

    Also, Jabba was an amazing puppet brought to life 40 years by a team of people who knew their stuff and also knew the limitations of what they could do, thus creating a completely believable creature. An inevitable CGI will only look meh at the end of the day and will stink of computers. In 'The Book of Boba Fett' they paled in comparison to what we saw in 'Return of the Jedi', even if they were relatively well done.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,306 ✭✭✭McFly85


    The rise of Jabba the Hut is a backstory we don’t need and further shrinks the universe by repeatedly focusing on characters we already know(and really, know enough about).

    Would love for the new films to follow Andors lead to move away from established characters and create a new story with completely original characters, that keeps the SW setting but without the baggage of the previous 9 films.



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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    For sure and it's well that the project is in general dead as a dodo ... though I'd say if there were one director who'd likely have insisted upon a puppet Jabba & not CGI, it'd be Del Toro; the man has always appreciated the value of a puppet, or animatronic, or Duncan Jones in a mask.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,054 ✭✭✭Mr Crispy


    Or better yet, Doug Jones. :pac:



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Duncan Jones' career has cratered since Mute; the guy's gotta eat and is happy to slum it around in a prosthetic mask 🤡



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,932 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    Perhaps. But I shudder to think what the cost of a Jabba the Hutt puppet/animatronic would cost today. Into the bargain, the entire film was supposed to be centred on Jabba, which automatically eliminates puppetry on such a scale.

    Jabba the Hutt works as a secondary bad guy, one where we don't have to spend too much time with him. Beyond that is likely to be a disaster. Just like Boba Fett one might say. But more so, because he's more than just a guy in a fancy suit of armour.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,597 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    He is doing pre production on a Rogue Trooper movie.



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