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Heavyweight Boxing

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    #10922
    walshb
    Registered Users Posts: 55,649 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120527118#Comment_120527118

    His hands are faster than Joe’s. He’s a sharper and cleaner puncher.



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    #10923
    Mantis Toboggan
    Registered Users Posts: 17,987 ✭✭✭✭Mantis Toboggan


    Joyce just needs to find a way to get past the first 4 rounds without taking too much damage. Better movement is the key, avoid standing and trading. Once Zhang tires he'll start taking over and should win on points or a late stoppage.

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    #10924
    eagle eye
    Registered Users Posts: 38,395 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Joyce needs to put the weight back on so he can push off from the clinch without getting caught. If he can do that he'll win it handy.



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    #10925
    Butson
    Registered Users Posts: 809 ✭✭✭Butson


    Reports saying, surprise surprise, it's Fury putting up the blocks for this 4 man tournament type event in Saudi.

    He is a joke of champion.



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    #10926
    normanoffside
    Registered Users Posts: 9,987 ✭✭✭normanoffside


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120527347#Comment_120527347

    To think, it should have been Fury vs Usyk this weekend :(



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    #10927
    squinn2912
    Registered Users Posts: 4,841 ✭✭✭squinn2912


    What an event that would have been



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    #10928
    OmegaGene
    Registered Users Posts: 9,334 ✭✭✭OmegaGene


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120527347#Comment_120527347

    george warren has said on numerous occasions they have not been contacted by the skills challenge about this

    the entire concept of having a deal for four fighters is going to be a struggle, the venues wont be ready until december so what do the fighters do until then ? they need to fight but if any of them lose the entire thing collapses

    so far it is just an idea that was floated around by the prince and skills challenge, eddie hearn claims its 95% done for aj v wilder but he will say anything for clout these days

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    #10929
    squinn2912
    Registered Users Posts: 4,841 ✭✭✭squinn2912


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120528007#Comment_120528007

    That’s the thing it’s all far too watery, Those lads have just had a fight fall through, Joshua and Wilder could have fought for undisputed but neither really went for it. Brilliant point about jurist how far away December is. Pity the fights aren’t sorted



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    #10930
    squinn2912
    Registered Users Posts: 4,841 ✭✭✭squinn2912


    Just been reading up a bit and remembering that Hrgovic’s father died in the build up to his fight with Zhang. Explains quite a bit about his demeanour in the ring that night. Up until then I thought he was a serious operator but I expected him to kick on. In fairness he did well on the night to get through the early storm.



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    #10931
    OmegaGene
    Registered Users Posts: 9,334 ✭✭✭OmegaGene


    He offered to fight Zhang again in China and promises a knock out but that’s on the back burner now with joyce calling for the rematch obviously

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    #10932
    squinn2912
    Registered Users Posts: 4,841 ✭✭✭squinn2912


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120530119#Comment_120530119

    Yea, if Zhang were to win the rematch then the Hrgovic fight is a massive one. He’s no cod. In the meantime I’d like to see him fight someone like Whyte



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    #10933
    walshb
    Registered Users Posts: 55,649 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120530571#Comment_120530571

    He’d hammer Whyte. But fitness always a risk.



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    #10934
    OmegaGene
    Registered Users Posts: 9,334 ✭✭✭OmegaGene


    I think Whyte is finished, povetkin blasted him with a nice uppercut and he just recovered from serious illness with covid complications for the rematch so whyte had an easier rematch, no idea what he was doing against Tyson fury he came out southpaw and then didn’t know what to do. Coming out with wilder excuses than about being pushed and banging his head on tbe canvas ffs.

    I’d like to see Whyte winning a few decent fights but I think he’s done, he claims he’s always learning but he’s pushing on in years now to be learning a huge amount

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    #10935
    squinn2912
    Registered Users Posts: 4,841 ✭✭✭squinn2912


    Aw aye Whyte is just alright and no more than that. Thinking of Hrgović he’s not getting a title shot, Joyce, Ruiz, Zhang, Parker and Dubois are all out of the question and I think Sanchez is risky for him. The likes of Whyte or Chisora are a decent measurement of where he is and he needs a fight.

    I think Fury would do that to plenty of 5-10 type guys as well. Whyte did about as well as he could have done.



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    #10936
    OmegaGene
    Registered Users Posts: 9,334 ✭✭✭OmegaGene


    Hrgovic is second or third in line for Usyk which won’t be a great draw financially

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    #10937
    squinn2912
    Registered Users Posts: 4,841 ✭✭✭squinn2912


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120531860#Comment_120531860

    No unless he can do a bit to raise his profile but that fight is well down the line. Hrgovic i think needs a couple more fights in the meantime. I want to see him a bit more so I can make up my mind about whether or not he’s any good.



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    #10938
    OmegaGene
    Registered Users Posts: 9,334 ✭✭✭OmegaGene


    latest wbc rankings are

    fury

    wilder

    ruiz

    aj

    sanchez

    makhmudov

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    #10939
    squinn2912
    Registered Users Posts: 4,841 ✭✭✭squinn2912


    So Ruiz to get the shot? How does that work? Surely they wont call for Fury Wilder IV



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    #10940
    walshb
    Registered Users Posts: 55,649 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120533743#Comment_120533743

    I don’t think Fury has been given a mandatory order yet to fight, even though Wilder is ranked number 1. But WBC will surely issue one soon.

    I think Wilder is also number 1 at the WBA



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    #10941
    squinn2912
    Registered Users Posts: 4,841 ✭✭✭squinn2912


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120533954#Comment_120533954

    So what would you expect to happen then? Wilder have a fight made, governing body wait and then make Ruiz mandatory?



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    #10942
    walshb
    Registered Users Posts: 55,649 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120534003#Comment_120534003

    Not sure. I reckon Fury gets Ruiz and then some orders are made.

    They (Fury and Usyk) can arrange to dodge and side-step their mandatories: WBC could make Fury their franchise champion, which allows clout. Usyk has Dubois next, but no idea if that’s a mandatory. It’s super champion v regular



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    #10943
    OmegaGene
    Registered Users Posts: 9,334 ✭✭✭OmegaGene


    odd story to hit the socials

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    #10944
    eagle eye
    Registered Users Posts: 38,395 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Yeah read that, he was caught with a 9mm, cops searched the car after smelling marijuana.



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    #10945
    OmegaGene
    Registered Users Posts: 9,334 ✭✭✭OmegaGene


    They found a gun drugs illegal tints and illegal number plates on his rolls Royce and he posted later

    id rather be safe than sorry. The end



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    #10946
    squinn2912
    Registered Users Posts: 4,841 ✭✭✭squinn2912


    Hardly be an awful lot to come out of that but it is a strange story. It’ll not hurry on the December dream anyhow.



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    #10947
    walshb
    Registered Users Posts: 55,649 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    This era could still yet go down as one the most pathetic of all time...



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    #10948
    squinn2912
    Registered Users Posts: 4,841 ✭✭✭squinn2912


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120549721#Comment_120549721

    I’m not sure you can really say that. Klitchko era might be the worst of all yet he was a great champion. I think it is in danger of being forgettable.



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    #10949
    Butson
    Registered Users Posts: 809 ✭✭✭Butson


    I think AJ v Wilde will happen now. Wilder is a free agent so fight will happen on Dan.

    As for Fury....clown.



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    #10950
    squinn2912
    Registered Users Posts: 4,841 ✭✭✭squinn2912


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120549790#Comment_120549790

    You’re callin Apollo Creed a clown?



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    #10951
    squinn2912
    Registered Users Posts: 4,841 ✭✭✭squinn2912


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120550053#Comment_120550053

    No bites on that…

    What did Joshua and Wilder do that makes them not clowns while Fury is one? They didn’t go near one another years ago for undisputed despite ample opportunity to do so. Wilder took the Fury fight thinking it would be an easy day’s work because Fury was so fat. Joshua didn’t show much appetite to fight Fury either, instead he tried to take a handy Miller fight that fell through and then got trounced by Ruiz. He was dying to get fighting Whyte about 5 more times and his matches as champion weren’t earth shattering.



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