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  • Registered Users Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    They should be declared a terrorist group,and that's opens them to counter terrorist operations and strikes,

    Wether it be Sudan ,Mali or libya they should be taken out with air or drone strikes ,



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,666 ✭✭✭charlie_says


    Maybe Xi did a deal with Zelensky for rebuilding?



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    The only fact I can be certain of from your post is that you have a high opinion of yourself.

    One massive difference between Russia and Ukraine is their artillery accuracy, especially counter battery ability.

    Second massive difference is that Ukraine won’t be crossing fields like it’s WW1 as the Russians were. Google Bradley IFV for starters.

    A third massive difference is that Ukraine are fighting an existential battle. They won’t give in.

    A fourth massive difference is YOUR over reliance on what Russia can produce and purchase compared to Ukraine (who have their own manufacturing facilities) and the West can produce. You reference a French problem. Which do you think gets resolved first, a bit of politics or Russian production incompetence. Do you think Poland etc won’t supply Ukraine.

    Finally, what do you think more likely if Ukraine stalls and falls back…

    1. Russia takes more and more territory
    2. Poland take advantage of a clearly ‘sick man’ Russia and enter the fray

    my money would be on two, but I doubt it will get that far.


    You should have more faith in Ukraine’s ability/resolve to fight and equally in Russia’s incompetence.

    Ukraine will prevail regardless of the outcome of a particular offensive.

    Oh, and finally - Russia’s economy - you don’t think that’s hurting massively, GTFO!



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,435 ✭✭✭macraignil


    Another careless smoking related incident in moskovyte controlled territory with an oil refinery near Sevastopol on fire:




  • Registered Users Posts: 2,579 ✭✭✭Field east


    The following is a big unknown and I never see it factored in by any boardie and it is this. In all USSR/moscoys’s /Russia’s wars up to recently/now the population sourced to provide soldiers was very rural , very ‘compliant/obedient/willing’, easily influenced / little education, period of no mobile phones, little or no immigration to the west or anywhere else outside USSR/Russia, state in complete control of communications and soforth.

    BUT because of progress in general in recent times -especially in education , improvement in general knowledge on an international level and most especially in the whole ICT sector you are dealing with a totally different mindset. The question then is will the potential conscripts have the same attitude/ interest / willingness/ eagerness in going to war as their predecessors ? Only time will tell.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,445 ✭✭✭XsApollo


    only 2 places in Russia fit your description of new russia there, St Petersburg and Moscow.

    the rest of it is largely the same or even regressed since the Soviet Union collapsed.



  • Registered Users Posts: 7,355 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    Sorry I was going by your maths that they are using 7,000 shells a day and are only getting 40,000.


    That wouldn’t do them for than 4-5 days.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,634 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    Bad Day for Russia. Oil depot in Sevastopol gone and large chemical warehouse in Iran gone up in smoke.



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,826 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    One million shells is still only about 2500 a day.


    The scale of the ammunition shortfall is incredible.


    One million a month would be better but not possible and the political will is not in Europe for that.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,997 ✭✭✭rogber


    This is frighteningly plausible scenario. Hit the nuclear site and claim it was the Ukrainians



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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,930 ✭✭✭Cordell


    They are also openly threatening that there will be consequences if Ireland keeps showing support for Ukraine.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,689 ✭✭✭Economics101


    If Ireland does not expel several "diplomats" from Orwell Road and reduce the numbers to parity with our representation in Moscow, then we will be revealed as total wimps, in thrall to the anti-Western jerks in politics and the media.

    Post edited by Economics101 on


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,332 ✭✭✭prunudo


    Lets be honest, nobody will believe him or another Russian for that matter. Are they still blaming the Ukrainians for shooting MH17 out of the sky?



  • Registered Users Posts: 7,332 ✭✭✭prunudo


    It would be interesting to know what interests Irish buisnesses still have in Russia and who is connected to them.



  • Registered Users Posts: 7,035 ✭✭✭timmyntc


    They wont do that because the fallout will predominately affect Russia instead of rest of europe.



  • Registered Users Posts: 20,047 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    The reactors are not the same type as Chernobyl and that scenario will not repeat if they damage the plant. The damage and consequences would be mostly local. Not that it won't be a very serious situation.

    I think the EU should declare it a line in the sand with boots on the ground or a large donation of fighter jets should the Orcs breach a reactor.



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,452 ✭✭✭jmreire


    Yes, but even Moscow and St. Petersburg is now feeling the pinch of war, with mobilization taking place in both cities. Its getting closer to the Kremlin.



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,452 ✭✭✭jmreire


    Both items are very welcome news, but especially the Iranian fire. Maybe this time the Ayatollah and his Mullahs have gone too far in their terror campaign...poisoning the school girls may yet bring their down fall.



  • Registered Users Posts: 24,014 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    That was probably the Mossad and fair fecks to them as they are the best at what they do.

    It is necessary that every Country who supplies Russia with war making materials should feel the harshest consequences for their poor judgement.



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,452 ✭✭✭jmreire


    The thing is, that all of the people you mention have left when they still could get out, and now Putin with his latest mobilization laws, has effectively blocked most if not all avenues of escape for the remainer's. But there's hope yet, one branch of Govt in the Duma has rejected calls for an increase in the Nrs conscripted, citing shortages in the labour force. So at least some of Putin's chickens are coming home to roost.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,750 ✭✭✭zv2


    Post edited by zv2 on

    “Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.” — Voltaire



  • Registered Users Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    @[Deleted User] Second massive difference is that Ukraine won’t be crossing fields like it’s WW1 as the Russians were. Google Bradley IFV for starters.....


    And this is the basic lack of understanding of what your trying to argue, Bradleys and other IFVs and even tanks can easily be stopped by artillery barrages,while crossing open ground,they face the exact same problems as Russia has in bakhmut and Vuhledar and other places, vehicle formations and infantry formations are hugely vulnerable in the open ,the Ukrainans have repeatedly said they can't counter the Russian artillery, essentially mass artillery,

    Take off the blinkers , another poster who reads a post and thinks he has to attack another poster because he thinks ukraine are being attacked,and again ends up wrong,but they have Western vehicles,

    Western vehicles that have to cross open ground while under heavy artillery barrages and Anti tank weapons and air strikes,

    Unfortunately no western tanks or ifv unstoppable better protected than Russian vehicles that's a fact but they are not invincible,

    But all you can read your attacking Ukraine,your saying ukraine,yada yada yada



  • Registered Users Posts: 20,047 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    What is the rate of Orc shell production, have you actually looked it up? Ukrainian assessments are that they can only manufacture 700 rounds a day, and you think the western rate of 3-4 times that is a problem. Ukraine has a significant advantage in that serious efforts are under way to increase manufacturing capacity and the Wests industrial base will outdo anything the Orcs and their scumbag mates can come up with. South Korea is going to 'lend' the US 500,000 shells, letting them free up their own stocks to go to Ukraine. France and Australia months ago started an innitiative to ramp up production of shells, with Australia supplying the explosives and France doing the rest. Ukraine have themselves set up manufacturing facilities in Poland which are making several calibres of shells and mortar rounds which are alread in use and they are currently working on expanding to make more calibres. The US will have more than doubled it's production capacity by the end of the year and is already up 50% on the way to an eventual 600% increase.

    Long range precision ordnance aas been destroying Orc ammunition dumps for months at quite a rate, they have significant shortages. Have you not been listening to Prigozhin's whining and looked at the videos made by groups of orcs complaining they have no ammunition and have literally been forced by blocking units to attack bare handed?



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,750 ✭✭✭zv2


    S300 kills


    “Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.” — Voltaire



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,750 ✭✭✭zv2


    If I remember correctly I read somewhere that Ukraine will have a 2:1 advantage in shells soon...

    “Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.” — Voltaire



  • Registered Users Posts: 60 ✭✭GerUpOttaTa


    I wouldn't put it past Putin to do whatever it takes. Nothing will be off the table unfortunately.



  • Registered Users Posts: 60 ✭✭GerUpOttaTa


    Care to name names? You need to back up allegations with substance.



  • Registered Users Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Not if they don't receive the 1 million shells that they were promised don't materialise ,were half way through the year and they received 40,000 ,

    What's the current shell use for Ukraine on a monthly basis?



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,445 ✭✭✭XsApollo


    Yea, In terms of population doing anything regarding protests or putting pressure on Putin, those to cities are the only places in Russia that could.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,689 ✭✭✭Economics101




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