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Why do some people take such offence if you don't go to their stag party or wedding?

  • 29-04-2023 11:29AM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,980 ✭✭✭pgj2015


    I have seen this a lot over the years, I hate weddings and stag parties so rarely go, but I have had so called friends stop talking to me for not going.

    I still keep in touch with them and meet up with them etc give a good wedding gift but they cant seem to understand that everyone if different and some people just don't like stag parties and weddings and cut contact over it.


    Im not going to change though, life is too short to go to events that you don't want to go to.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,680 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    It's just a kind of cultural tide thing and you are swimming against it.

    It's never easy swimming against a tide literally or figuratively.

    Just do your own thing and try not to let them bother you.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,646 ✭✭✭BrianD3


    Herd mentality, safety in numbers and "if everyone" logic - they want a big wedding with lots of guests and all the usual wedding clichés.

    But if enough others decide that they won't participate, there will no longer be a big herd to impress. Hence reacting in a strange way to individuals who don't participate.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,268 ✭✭✭jackofalltrades


    Not going to the Stag party is fine by me.

    Not coming to the wedding is a bit different.

    I understand some people don't like them, they're expensive, there's hassle with getting done up, possible childcare and hotel costs, maybe days off.

    But if a close friend couldn't make it to just the ceremony and leave straight after and it wouldn't be much hassle for them, I'd be a bit disappointed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,980 ✭✭✭pgj2015


    I think it is selfish of the people getting married to not consider why some people just don't want to go to a wedding.

    I never wanted to or want to get married so I suppose that is why I just have no interest in them.


    Also the same friends would always have an excuse why they can't go on a night out, football trip etc but they expect you to make the effort with an expensive wedding, sometimes in a different country.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,925 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    I don't mind doing certain things that I don't enjoy, if it makes my friends and family happy. I can handle a bit of hassle on their behalf.

    Its called friendship.

    Some people couldn't be bothered doing anything that they don't want to do. Its all about them, at all times.

    Those are the sort of "friends" you stop talking to.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,980 ✭✭✭pgj2015


    A wedding and stag is just a once off event. Just because you don't want to go doesn't make you a bad friend.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,166 ✭✭✭eggy81




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,680 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    Maybe it depends on the degree of friendship.

    If you just meet now and again through work or a shared interest it might not be such a big deal to swerve the wedding.

    But if you were best buddies not so easy to miss the whole thing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,493 ✭✭✭DBK1


    Were you not on another thread recently complaining about friends who lost contact with you after they got married and blaming their wives/partners?

    We could be seeing the real reason they cut ties with you now!

    Life is all about little sacrifices, we don’t always get to just do or participate in the things we like. Just because you don’t like weddings isn’t a good enough reason to stay away from a close friends wedding. It’s obviously an important day for them and they’ve invited you to join in. For the sake of 1 day you’re better off to go whether you like it or not.

    It’s a sign of respect for your friend and to be honest it’s a massive show of disrespect of you don’t show up and haven’t a genuine reason for it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,980 ✭✭✭pgj2015


    A massive show of Disrespect, really? I think you are being melodramatic with that statement to be honest.

    Just because they think its some huge important event that everyone needs to go to doesn't mean it is. A real friend would understand that not all people care as much about their wedding as they do.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,374 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,493 ✭✭✭DBK1




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,183 ✭✭✭✭hynesie08


    A real friend would actually care about something that matters to their friend. Sounds like your just one of those lads who expects everything to be stagnant and gets angry when their friends evolve.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,980 ✭✭✭pgj2015


    I'm talking about meeting them before the wedding.

    Just because someone goes to a friends wedding doesn't mean they are a real friend. Some people just love a piss up.

    The friend who doesn't go to the wedding might be the one to be there later when their friend needs them during a hard time, if the marriage doesn't work out ,depression, a death etc.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,646 ✭✭✭BrianD3


    The wedding industry loves the mentality of some posters here. It is clearly a social faux pas for some if a friend doesn't attend their wedding but nobody can explain why exactly weddings are so special compared to any other event.

    It seems to be people's primitive brains that make them attach such importance to ceremonial bullsh*t like weddings. This normie sheeple weakness is manipulated and exploited by the wedding industry, laughing all the way to the bank.

    If I invite a friend to do some activity and they say they don't want to/don't feel like it, should I ditch them as a result? Or is it ok once they have an excuse that is deemed be ME to be a "genuine reason"?

    And going to a wedding is generally a bigger ordeal and expense than most activities. Inviting others to attend but actually expecting them to do so shows poor social skills and means it was more akin to a summons than an invitation. It shows particularly poor social skills if the friend has previously let it be known that they are not interested in attending weddings, you invite them anyway and then get miffed when they refuse.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,374 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    17,000 weddings last year in Ireland. Unless there was 100% attendance, a lot of people will have stopped talking.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,980 ✭✭✭pgj2015


    I agree. I always tell them straight away when asked that I wont be going but they always keep asking me to go.

    At least I don't say im going then back out last minute with some bull$hit excuse like some people do.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,453 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    OP how would you feel if none of your friends could be bothered attending your wedding?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,218 ✭✭✭Mister Vain


    It's something I've seen a lot of people fall out over, especially if the wedding is abroad. People that were good friends for years and then suddenly stop talking to each other. I must admit I do hate them myself. Stags can be good craic though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,980 ✭✭✭pgj2015


    Furious obviously lol.

    I would never get married to be honest, I have never seen the appeal or advantages of getting married but if I did, I honestly wouldn't care because all that matters is that the 2 people getting married are there, that is what it is supposed to be about? not putting on a show for everyone else.

    And its not every one of a persons friends just 1 or 2 who don't like weddings or have other reasons for not going.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,646 ✭✭✭BrianD3


    This is very true. Going or not going to a wedding is not a measure of real friendship.

    If someone experiences a marriage breakup, death or depression, it is quite likely that their friends will "go missing" regardless of whether they were at the wedding or not. Particularly true for men IME.

    And sometimes it is worse than that, I know several people who were shafted by "friends" who had been at their wedding and vice versa. As they tried to come to terms with what happened, more than once I heard the phrase "But they were at my wedding".



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,980 ✭✭✭pgj2015


    It is so needless as well to fall out over 1 day.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,374 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    If it was a big wedding with say 200 invitations, it could be more like 10 or 20 not going.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,980 ✭✭✭pgj2015


    Yeah well, that is up to them. not a hanging offence.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,374 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,925 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    It literally does.

    A wedding is literally somebody inviting their friends and family to an important event in their lives. Saying that you couldn't be bothered going is literally saying that you don't consider them much of a friend.

    Not going to a wedding doesn't make you a bad friend, because there can be lots of valid reasons why you cannot attend.

    Not going because you just don't want to makes you a bad friend, because you could have gone but the friendship wasn't worth it to you.

    And make no mistake, the lazy shite who couldn't be bothered going to a wedding won't be there for the bad times either, don't fool yourself with that guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,980 ✭✭✭pgj2015


    If you don't respect your friends wish not to go to your wedding, you are a bad friend.


    They were talking about weddings the other day on the radio, some woman was on about only inviting friends with serious partners in case they broke up later and that would ruin her wedding pictures 😆 get over yourself like, it's just a wedding.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,722 ✭✭✭Suckler


    You have "friend" issues. People grow, get married and priorities change. You need to get your head around that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,980 ✭✭✭pgj2015


    I don't at all. I don't care what they do. I do my own thing.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,071 ✭✭✭Greyfox


    To many people their wedding is the most important day of their lives, far more important than a standard event. A close friend not going because they don't feel like it is saying they don't care all that much about their friend.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,980 ✭✭✭pgj2015


    I think people need to try to see it from another persons view, not just their own. Its like a religious persons religion is very important to them but another person mightn't give a fcuk about religion and think its a waste of time.

    it is childish of the married couple to care so much if a friend doesn't want to go.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,071 ✭✭✭Greyfox


    Na, family and friends are suppossed to be their for you on the big life changing days. They require a very good reason not to attend



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,218 ✭✭✭Mister Vain


    I can understand if its close family or friends. If its someone I'm not close with or cousins I haven't seen in years I generally don't bother.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,707 ✭✭✭✭EmmetSpiceland


    Would need a very good reason to miss the stag, or wedding, of a “close” friend.

    Simply not liking stags/weddings, or hating women, just wouldn’t cut it.

    EmmetSpiceland: Oft imitated but never bettered.

    “It is not blood that makes you Irish but a willingness to be part of the Irish nation” - Thomas Davis



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,980 ✭✭✭pgj2015




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,707 ✭✭✭✭EmmetSpiceland


    I don’t hate rich people? Some of my best friends are rich.

    EmmetSpiceland: Oft imitated but never bettered.

    “It is not blood that makes you Irish but a willingness to be part of the Irish nation” - Thomas Davis



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,325 ✭✭✭cuttingtimber22


    I hate weddings and I hate stag parties. Crap food. Crap speeches. Too much drink. Very false.

    I love a good meal with a few friends or catching up for a few pints. If a friend needed a few quid to tide him over I am happy to do so and have. If they rang up on a midweek where I had a load of other stuff on and asked to head out I would.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,557 ✭✭✭timmyntc


    Simply not liking stags/weddings, or hating women, just wouldn’t cut it

    Wha??



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,646 ✭✭✭BrianD3


    "They require" - bonkers stuff. And who are you to decide what a very good reason for non attendance is? Does the reason have to be approved by the rest of the herd or just the sheeple resources manager.

    The result of all of this is you'll get a typically Irish situation where people are not honest and direct with each other. Instead of someone saying they don't feel like going to the wedding, they will come up with a BS excuse. Everyone will then be able to save face.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,925 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    Imagine thinking so little of your friends that you can't even make the base effort of going along to their wedding?

    And then being surprised when they no longer consider you to be a friend at all?

    Like, sit at home scratching fat arses all you want, but don't act surprised when people think less of you for it.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,980 ✭✭✭pgj2015


    me: want to go to Dublin for a gig? friend: no I cant because some bull$hit excuse.

    friend: want to come to my wedding (which will cost a fcukin fortune, $hit food, $hit craic) and I know you hate them. me: no thanks.

    im the bad guy here? lol



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,925 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    They do want to go to the gig.

    They just don't want to go with you.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,071 ✭✭✭Greyfox


    Once your reason could be genuine then your fine.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,980 ✭✭✭pgj2015


    No they still want to hang out but when it suits them.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    If you're a close friend, you're not invited to the wedding for the food or the craic.

    You're invited because they want to share this once in a lifetime moment with you.

    If you can't afford it, or have legitimate reasons not to go, people accept that.if you decide you don't want to go, because you've no interest, then that's your decision, but most people will take that to mean, that you dont care about the couple, so why should they continue to care about you?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,071 ✭✭✭Greyfox


    To the vast majority of people yes. Comparing a wedding to a gig makes absolutely no sense whatsoever



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,980 ✭✭✭pgj2015


    I think it is what another poster said earlier, "oh there was 300 at my wedding etc etc" its all about showing off to people. I never got that before because think they are a waste of time, its all a load of $hite. id rather go to a Daniel O Donnell gig to be honest.

    I know one thing for sure, I wont regret dodging 99% of weddings on my death bed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,980 ✭✭✭pgj2015


    Yeah but im saying for the past few years all I hear is excuses most of the time so I like gigs, they like weddings. it shouldnt be a one way street.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,755 ✭✭✭lbunnae




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,925 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    Which is exactly what your own attitude is...

    I know you are just on a wind up on a Saturday night but surely you can do better than this.



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