Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings and threadbans - updated 11/5/24*

I have no idea what we will do. But it will happen. Speak up all you want but you ain't seen nothing yet.

As I said, our choice will be whether to be life raft or a fortress.

Closing off access to the EU seems to be the way to handle it, we don't ever want to see a situation like what happened in 2015 happening again .

The EU cannot be closed off. No matter how hard you try. The southern borders on the Med will always be a sieve.

You think there is a choice. Ok

As far as climate refugees are concerned,yes in the future climate change may well be a problem. The time scale involved here may be decades or even centuries.

We have time to adapt. I'm normally against the left but on this issue I am in agreement with none other than Bernie Sanders. Family planning advice could be offered to countries such as Nigeria (population growth there is staggering).

I would not advocate abortion but perhaps allow access to contraception or educate on the rythm method of birth control.

What we can't have is more immigration. THAT IS NOT ON.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-49601678

That would appear to be the situation under law, yes. In the case of the Afghan guy who went to court, it seems he was 17 years old and left homeless and begging on the streets for three weeks straight after arriving in Ireland, despite being supposedly under the 'protection' of the Irish govt whilst his asylum claim was being assessed.

You could definitely strongly argue that the State also has a legal and moral obligation to provide accommodation to every single Irish person at risk of homelessness.

I flew into Kosice last night in Slovakia. 92km to the Ukrainian border.

The amount of Ukrainians on the flight was scarey. We are being taken for a ride by a large majority of them.

Chatting to Ukrainians in work. Their take is that the only refugees are those from occupied areas. The rest are economic migrants.The amount telling me they are going home to a war zone on holiday, ballet exams for their kids, ( really happened) , medical treatment, visiting family makes a joke of the whole thing.

There is no such obligation whatsoever. The state however, will not offer financial assistance towards any such arrangement.

No real evidence for any of this. It would surely be expensive for the state to house asylum seekers or refugees and they would actually much prefer if none arrived at all. The idea that they see it as some sort of money making racket sounds a bit bonkers - how could the state make a profit by having to house refugees from abroad at its own expense?

But I've just said the government would much prefer if no refugees or asylum seekers arrived at all (from the economic viewpoint). The asylum system is expensive, with no chance to make a profit on it.

It would be like claiming the govt would much rather if the prison population was a lot higher.

I have seen three videos of adult migrants suffering from mental health issues who don't much look like they could function in society without help.

All jokes about doctors and rocket scientists aside I don't know how some of them make it all the way to the extreme western end of Europe. It's almost like they are being aided.

They have the coke trade sown up in the UK , record numbers started applying here for asylum in the last few years and a few big busts here recently were Albanians.

I've no doubt they'll be taking over the reins here soon enough.