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  • 30-04-2023 1:26am
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    Registered Users Posts: 11,400 ✭✭✭✭fullstop


    What’s the story with the new pop up ads taking up the entire page? Are 4 ads per page when scrolling not enough? Site is getting less user-friendly all the time somehow.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 723 ✭✭✭Slightly Kwackers


    Ads??

    Never seen any on this site.

    My Adblocker Ultimate has chalked up six items though so it seems to be doing something.

    I really do detest ads. RTE is unwatchable for that.

    Fortunately you can find the program that someone downloaded and edited out the breaks on though.

    I have no guilt as I don't buy the rubbish advertised anyway. As Orwell wrote "it's the rattling of a stick in a swill bucket".



  • Registered Users Posts: 18,584 ✭✭✭✭kippy


    Free to use site, very little data collected on you unlike a lot of other free sites, great place to learn new things, speak with people etc and people complain about a few adds that are needed to pay the bills.

    Yeah, it's likely the site is screwed if the user base can't tolerate a few adds.

    Nice to click on on every now and again, just to say thanks.

    I dont use adblock on this site as I want to see the site continue and remain free of a subscription fee etc. If adds are a means to an avoid that then so be it.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,432 ✭✭✭Tork


    I don't understand why they can't offer an ad-free subscription option to people who want to help. All this is going to go is drive more people to seek out ad blocking browsers and reduce revenue even further. How much does boards get per ad view?



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    They do, just don't accept cookies when prompted and you get no ads.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,793 ✭✭✭Nigzcurran




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  • Registered Users Posts: 723 ✭✭✭Slightly Kwackers


    As I said, no one is losing out. I wouldn't buy the rubbish advertised anyway, in fact I am fully aware that the cost of advertising is borne by the product or service so I automatically avoid advertised brands if possible.

    So the advertisers lose nothing and there is a saving in bandwidth that in its own miniscule way is good for the environment and the internet generally.


    It's a win win.

    Usenet used to be an outstanding service, far far better than this or any of the web based services and never carried ads, well apart from spammers anyway, but they could be killfiled


    So quality services can be run without adverts.



  • Registered Users Posts: 723 ✭✭✭Slightly Kwackers


    Was this site not free of ads a few years back?

    The plethora of advertising seems to be a recent thing and I wonder what has changed on sites where the content is supplied free of charge by the sites users?

    Maybe the system should work the other way and the people that provide the material get paid for their output and not the advertisers who think nothing of assaulting people with their unwanted and often infantile drivel.


    For a mere euro or two I would be happy to furnish you with more gems of profound logic :-)

    Please treat the offer as information and not an "advert" :-)



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I’m assuming this new full page add is a glitch and will be fixed on Tuesday.

    if it’s there on Wednesday I’ll unreg and never visit again.



  • Registered Users Posts: 723 ✭✭✭Slightly Kwackers


    Is it a problem if the site is screwed?

    I turned my blocker off and the inane rubbish means nothing to me a load of coloured pictures that is just disruptive garbage. The same as most sites on the web now. It's just background "noise" and I really tend to wonder if its of much value to the producers of the goods or services pushed?

    This site like many others would be unusable without an adblocker.

    I do pay for advert free good material and am happy to do so. Wikipedea I donate to and the Guardian in the UK is the one paper I subscribe to.

    Oddly enough neither use ads anyway. If I stopped paying I would still get the same ad free material.

    Oh for the good old days of the 300 baud modem.



  • Registered Users Posts: 28,471 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    I use AdblockPlus but I still get ads. When I was a mod I got very used to having no ads (a / the mod perk) but since I opted out of modding I don't find the ads intrusive, I just ignore them. None of them are anything I would be interested in. The ones for the makey-uppy shirts and dresses are mildly irritating in their stupidity. Didn't get the full page ones which I can see would be a nuisance, but probably a glitch.



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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    You'd need to clear your cookies for the site, and when you first visit it again do not accept cookies when prompted.



  • Registered Users Posts: 22,262 ✭✭✭✭Autosport



    This is what I get too



  • Registered Users Posts: 723 ✭✭✭Slightly Kwackers


    I use Adblock ultimate and Malwarebytes. They both integrate into Firefox and stop most things on most sites.

    Personally I detest adverts they waste bandwidth and employ none productive individuals to push garbage onto the easily led.

    Stupidity is fine, they are not looking for the intelligentsia that's for sure.

    I do recall the odd advertising campaign on the TV and billboard that was witty artistic and a credit to the skills of the person designing the ad. Those days and the quality of the material are long gone.

    Strangely enough one of the funniest that featured Sylvester and Tweety Pie was so appealing that I recall the advert perfectly but somehow not the product.

    Whatever it was, it "tastes even better than Tweety Pie"



  • Registered Users Posts: 9,345 ✭✭✭OmegaGene


    i am guessing the full page advert on mobile is a glitch, it is only a recent thing

    The internet isn’t for everyone



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,708 ✭✭✭✭Dial Hard


    I wouldn't be so confident. Mike has confirmed over on the "official" Ads thread (in Announcements) that ad revenue is pretty much the only thing keeping the site afloat.



  • Registered Users Posts: 723 ✭✭✭Slightly Kwackers


    What are the overheads?

    Usenet was self propagating and very popular until everything went graphic, but even before that there were hundreds of BBS about provided by enthusiasts using packages like "Blue Wave".

    These were all provided free of charge by enthusiasts for enthusiasts.

    I only packed in using Usenet when the spam levels got silly and It was frankly too much effort to work out how to killfile efficiently.

    The redeeming point about the spammers though was that their rubbish wasn't forced on you.


    The advantages of having a slow modem connection were enormous, a file of a couple of Megabytes would have taken a couple of hours, you really would have to be determined to see the download!



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,217 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    Of course quality sites can be run without ads. You either need a wealthy backer or else the people who use the site pay a subscription.

    There's your three options, which one is your choice?



  • Registered Users Posts: 9,345 ✭✭✭OmegaGene


    the full page advert is taking the pi55 though

    The internet isn’t for everyone



  • Registered Users Posts: 723 ✭✭✭Slightly Kwackers


    But how have things changed?

    Are you suggesting that the site was of poor quality prior to the ads coming in?

    I really don't see any difference. The site is not too intuitive, but that seems to be the case with sites that use text primarily. Maybe the assumption is that those needing pictures need more simplicity?

    Why a wealthy backer?

    Wealthy, just how much?

    Usenet is still on the go and the interface via a newsreader like Agent is brilliant, surely a mass migration would cost virtually nothing?

    I never had reason to start a new newsgroup, but I assume it's a simple process as they were in the tens of thousands if not more when I last downloaded the list.


    As someone living and working in the UK prior to Maggie, I am left with the firm belief that assigning a monetary value to everything is often not a good move.

    I refuse to accept cash for things produced by my "hobbies", although that might change for the benefit of my "production team" shortly.

    So I am intrigued, just what has changed? How much is the outlay?


    You also don't list the system used by Wikipedia, one that I use myself, which is voluntary contributions.



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,217 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    True, voluntary contributions are another model. Very variable though and require constant reminders which might also annoy some. I'm sure you've seen them on Wikipedia etc.

    There's been some discussion about this on the Elon Musk Twitter thread and how such sites with lots of user generated content go about funding the runnings costs.

    You say yourself that you don't click on ads and/or use an adblocker. So you must surely see from this that advertisers are getting less value for the fees they pay. I've advertised products and paid for the ads (not on boards) so your like is useless to me. I may as well keep my funds. There are large companies who advertise and dodn't care whether they sell stuff or not, they just want create or reinforce brand awareness, so as long as you catch their ad in the corner of your eye, they've succeeded. But you need more advertisers to spend than the likes of Guiness or Coca Cola.

    A wealthy benefactor is a good way or the state/ taxpayer but that has it limitations. Subscriptions are great but how many subs will people take out before they just cut them all.

    So changing times I think, in how social media sites can be funded. And what will survive.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 723 ✭✭✭Slightly Kwackers


    Thanks yes I did start to think that it was a mistake contributing to Wiki. Once on their database you are being fed requests constantly, although having said that, they have been quiet for a couple of years, so I will do a monthly, as I did forget.

    Why the change for this site though? What does it cost and how have the costs altered since doing it for "free"?

    I know I carp on about Usenet, but it was a wonderful medium and rejected commercialism totally.


    I do use an adblocker by the way, I did mention turning it off to see what was so abhorrent about the site.

    Frankly it seems to provide far less space than some of the UK national papers, but I am doing any company a favour by using the adblocker. I will not buy a mainstream advertised product if I can help it simply because I want to pay for a product and not adverts, thus the company trying to assault my intellect might actually succeed in selling me something if I don't see the promotion.

    Now if Proctor & Gamble or Mc Donalds were to promote and sell adblockers, maybe they would see a boost in sales of their core products :-)

    Those I do see on the internet never fail to dissapoint, the number of adverts selling soap or even water with a fancy title to the hard of thinking are unbelievable so unless Aldi or Lidl start to promote their shampoo or washing up liquid, there isn't a hope that I would fork out for the more expensive dross.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,841 ✭✭✭Odelay


    I like the ads.



  • Registered Users Posts: 28,471 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    I just clicked on an ad, something I have never done before except accidentally. It was for the Van Gogh Exhibit in Dublin, which looks really interesting, I'll do a bit more research on it. That kind of ad is something I would consider worthwhile, unlike the stupid fake ads for clothing.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,103 ✭✭✭Glaceon




  • Boards.ie Employee Posts: 1,049 ✭✭✭✭✭Boards.ie: Mike


    Hi all,

    We have been in contact with Snigle the outside company that takes care of ads and ad placements. They are aware of these issues and are working on a resolve for them.

    Thanks guys,

    -Mike



  • Registered Users Posts: 40,437 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Do you think Mike works for nothing? That hosting is free?



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,688 ✭✭✭corks finest


    Awful crap



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,688 ✭✭✭corks finest


    They're v intrusive



  • Registered Users Posts: 82,985 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    STAHP




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  • Registered Users Posts: 82,985 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    THEY ARENT EVEN **** MARKETING ANYTHING




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