Waterford GAA Thread - Mod note post #1

What is their roll then…a pair of yes men …? Someone on this thread maintained a couple of weeks ago that Queally was one of the best coaches in the county…..with this sort of pedigree surely he should at least be visible on the sideline/dug out but not a sign of him it’s just the ‘ young lad ‘ possibly the ‘stat man’ is all the we see

The 90's?

Two teams on zero points.... Waterford and Westmeath.

Turns out there is an easy game in Munster. It's us.

What Camogie match are you talking about. Were the seniors playing today….?

Very hard watch. Friend who I was at the match with said that after 30 years, this would be his last Waterford game as this group of players can't be relied on. While I'm not as pessimistic, it sums up the misery of today.

First the positives. Prunty and Mark Fitzgerald locked down hoggy and harnedy in the first half despite Waterford not winning a puck out. Two Fitzgerald's off the bench, look to have the hurling to make it at this level. The 3 Fitzgerald's have been a great addition this year.

For the negatives. I was in the terrace and the straight down the pitch view really highlighted our weaknesses. We invariably work as individuals and our system doesn't allow us to be more than the sum of our parts.

On our puck outs, we would make 3-4 individual runs and Nolan would target one of these players. This is fine if you win the ball clean but most of the time the ball breaks and there's no support on the breaking ball as everyone else has run to different parts of the pitch.

In general play our forwards positioning and movement is horrendous. Lots of our main lads, Bennett, dessie, Aussie taking a break on the wing, clogging up space and never resetting to the middle.

On the few occasions they were set in the middle and a half back had the ball; our inside forwards wouldn't even make a run. Is this because they know the ball won't be hit in?

The running into traffic and obsession with taking on a man every time is deranged. You have to play what's in front of you. You run the ball to create space for your inside forwards and you hit your inside forwards to create space out the field. If you don't mix it up, there's no space anywhere.

Finally Bennett has to go off the frees. Far too inconsistent for this level. Back one of the Fitzgeralds for this.

Edit: I've been to a few coaching seminars with Eoin Kelly and never was particularly impressed in the way that Eamonn o shea or mick dempsey would wow you. Always got the feeling that he was rehashing other people's ideas rather than creating his own. As the coach, he's got to take a large portion of blame along with Davy for the poor stickwork and non-existent shape/movement in our forwards.

Exactly.

I hear he's been sending Kelly out to talk to refs at half time as the walk to the dressing room. Sad ****.

Is Eoin Kelly the main coach?

thanks for your kind words ‘useless waterford outfit’……maybe you should stay in your own thread….. plenty of corkonians will be getting ‘semis’ after that today and even more so if they win the next day

i feel sorry for Waterford's predicament at the moment , no home venue which is huge,

several players absent or abroad for various reasons , good young lads coming through but that bit too young

and a county championship at all 3 divisions senior intermediate and junior last year at club level doesn't help either , the lads in australia are a huge loss

keep the faith!!

That's unfortunate we have a big following, and sadly you'll always have a few idiots amongst that. Although i think the Tipp crowd are the worst when it comes to yobbish supporters!

after today expecting a win in any of the remaining games is almost delusional…..yes reappointing Davey was not wise but it sounds like there were no other candidates even-though the official line was that there was…..and smug Cork lads coming on here doesn’t contribute anything other than reinforce how smug some of them actually are😀

I don't know what Paddy Leavey and Patrick Curran have to do to get a run out.

The game is up for Davy but he should at least make changes for the last 2 games to restore some pride to the county. Start the aforementioned, Hogan and Mahony plus the Fitzgeralds and see where that goes. At least the Ballygunner lads have a winning mentality ; speaking of which, it's time the county board had a chat with the Ballygunner management team.

to say that Tipp crowd are the most yobbish is very unfair on the Limerick yobbos.

One thing I wanted to hear after the end of last years championship disaster was some clearing of the air by the players about what bloody happened . We didn’t get that ,we were then left with rumour and conjecture. Losing Cahill while inevitable meant it was just convenient to keep it all in-house with new manager . Eventually it will all come out you’d think !! So now we still have to play out our remaining games , and while the chances of qualifying are all but gone capitulation now against Clare and Tipp is not a option as we know by now what mental scarring does to Waterford hurling .

Not to continue with the negative theme, but looking to the future. How many of the panel will continue? Tadhg probably should (likely will) retire, I can see Bennett following his brothers abroad, Austin is an enigma, paddy Curran might not stick around if he’s not playing, and a few more lads might follow suit.