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Need a new PC - AMD Ryzen - Help Appreciated

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    #92
    ZingK
    Registered Users Posts: 117 ✭✭ZingK


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    Number 14 = CLR_CMOS

    Can you point it out to me? I can’t figure what I’m meant to press.



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    #93
    Spear
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Help & Feedback Category Moderators Posts: 25,244 CMod ✭✭✭✭Spear


    It may just be retraining the memory, which would show as a series of restarts as it tests settings. Have you tried letting it run for a few minutes first?



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    #94
    ZingK
    Registered Users Posts: 117 ✭✭ZingK


    Actually I see it via the writing in image. But not sure how to press it?



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    #95
    Spear
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120547580#Comment_120547580

    You don't press it, you short the two pins with a screwdriver.



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    #96
    wotzgoingon
    Registered Users Posts: 14,309 ✭✭✭✭wotzgoingon


    Touch the two pins with a screw driver. The two long points.

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    #97
    ZingK
    Registered Users Posts: 117 ✭✭ZingK


    Do you guys recommend I let it go for a few spins? I let it go for about 4 already?

    Should I clear CMOS or let it run?

    I have no idea.

    Thanks?



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    #98
    Spear
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120547612#Comment_120547612

    Let it go for a few minutes and see if it can successfully train the timings. Ryzens can be slow when to do so for the first time.



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    #99
    wotzgoingon
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120547612#Comment_120547612

    No clear the CMOS.



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    #100
    ZingK
    Registered Users Posts: 117 ✭✭ZingK


    Mixed answers there. I’m letting it run and been going on and off for about 10 times. Does that damage my PC going on and off like that?

    How long before giving up here? Times I should let it turn off and on? Or minutes?



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    #101
    wotzgoingon
    Registered Users Posts: 14,309 ✭✭✭✭wotzgoingon


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120547654#Comment_120547654

    Clear the CMOS it should only take a minute or two to boot while training.



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    #102
    Spear
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120547654#Comment_120547654

    Yeah, that's too long, time to clear the CMOS.



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    #103
    ZingK
    Registered Users Posts: 117 ✭✭ZingK


    Clear CMOS did not work, touched 2 pins with screwdriver. PC still going on and off? Any idea? The clear CMOS instruction is a bit vague, touch off 2 pins with a screw driver while machine is off. That is it?



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    #104
    wotzgoingon
    Registered Users Posts: 14,309 ✭✭✭✭wotzgoingon


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120547684#Comment_120547684

    Yes. Plugged in with it off. So in the state it is in just before you press the power button to turn on PC.



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    #105
    wotzgoingon
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    So you are shorting the two pins not touching one at a time and hold it for a few seconds.



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    #106
    ZingK
    Registered Users Posts: 117 ✭✭ZingK


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120547707#Comment_120547707

    Yes with no power but plug in, tried with it off too. 2 pins. You highlighted with a screw driver. Holding for 20 seconds.

    PC still turning on and off.

    What are my options now?


    Thanks.



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    #107
    wotzgoingon
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    Take out the battery for a few mins then plug it back in. Annoying I know but the short should have fixed it. Just to add do this when computer in off and unplugged.



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    #108
    ZingK
    Registered Users Posts: 117 ✭✭ZingK



    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120547740#Comment_120547740

    You mean my power cord? I do not think my PC has a battery?

    Bit annoying alright but I still appreciate the help I got from everyone. You guys took time out to help me for abso nothing so all good. I’m learning too.

    I was thinking if this does not work, could I put my old ram back in which is max 2100 MHz or something, that could be an option? Then go to bios, switch back to disable extra RAM, switch RAM back.


    Would that be an option?



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    #109
    wotzgoingon
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    Every PC has a small CMOS battery.



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    #110
    wotzgoingon
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    I could be wrong but it looks to be under your GPU.


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    #111
    wotzgoingon
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    That is the battery I went back and looked at your other pictures.



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    #112
    ZingK
    Registered Users Posts: 117 ✭✭ZingK


    That’s it alright. Now to figure out how to take it out. This is fun right?



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    #113
    ZingK
    Registered Users Posts: 117 ✭✭ZingK


    Yes have it out, took GPU out first. Wait a few mins and put it back?

    Could this need to be replaced?



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    #114
    Spear
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    It might be more convenient to pull out three of the four sticks of RAM. From a bit of reading the Ryzen 1700 seems to have often struggled to make the full 3200MHz with a large number of DIMMs like this.



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    #115
    wotzgoingon
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120547788#Comment_120547788

    No it does not need to be replaced. Well technically it will eventually when the battery dies.

    Yes just wait a few mins and then re-install the battery.



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    #116
    ZingK
    Registered Users Posts: 117 ✭✭ZingK


    Ok so took battery out and waited a few mins. Put everything back and same issue.



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    #117
    ZingK
    Registered Users Posts: 117 ✭✭ZingK


    If I take out RAM sticks, should I replace them with old RAM? Should I take them all out?


    Any idea how to approach it?


    Ideally I can get into BIOS and switch RAM back to <3000 MHz, put back new RAM and everything works again.



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    #118
    Spear
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    Take out three and see if it can get the remaining one to 3200MHz.



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    #119
    ZingK
    Registered Users Posts: 117 ✭✭ZingK


    I’ve tried it all at this stage. Different RAM, less RAM, took CMS battery out. Clear CMOS.

    None of it works, PC keeps turning on and off.


    Unless you have any more advice or things I could try. it might have to be brought somewhere to be fixed?



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    #120
    wotzgoingon
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120548012#Comment_120548012

    I'd take out the new RAM and install one stick of the old and then leave PC off for a while. And clear the CMOS one last time.

    Tbh it should have worked after clearing CMOS by shorting the two pins. And if there was something strange going on then when you removed the CMOS battery it would have wiped all memory of the PC when trying to train at 3200MHz.



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    #121
    Spear
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    This should be solvable without spending money needlessly.

    Clearing the CMOS should have worked though. How long do the restart cycles take? Does it restart after 4 seconds exactly?



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