Bruce Springsteen General Discussion Thread

Ha ha. I was going to drop in a belittling remark into the twitter thread. But just saw that I know that guy - Tom Mc. Don't know him too well - just more on a professional work level. But wouldn't have thought him to be in to that crap.

I don't know why, but I had in my head that these people were fairly young - like in their 20s and 30s - where maybe they have less responsibilities and can travel freely. But from a couple of the pictures of them, they are all in their 50s and 60s. Talk about having zero sense.

One thing I don't understand - what if theoretically, a group of say 15 die hard fans (not part of these looney tunes gang) decide to queue at the RDS at 7 o'clock on Friday morning. Then these guys arrive at around 12 with their numbers. Does security tell the other normal people to move aside, and let all these roll call people through. Surely, there must have been some fisticuffs over the years if that's the policy.

And I thought the Pearl Jam fans were hardcore!

That's an excellent point. Not everyone is on Twitter or fan forums, and a bunch of people could very legitimately arrive early on Friday, blissfully unaware of this nonsense, and then wonder who these interlopers are, turning up, claiming to be ahead of them, on the basis that they have been queueing for days, when they've done nothing of the sort.

There's nothing "official" about what they're doing - it's not endorsed by the promoter, - but people have, for the most part, just come to accept it for Springsteen shows here over the last twenty years. I don't get it. Nobody would tolerate it for anything else, whether it was Record Store Day, the opening of the Lego Store, or (back when they still had Ticketmaster booths) queueing for high demand tickets. Could you imagine? "We're actually first. We've been running daily roll calls at a café ten minutes away for the last five days." They'd be told to f*** off.

If people want to camp out all week, roughing it, at the entrance to RDS Simmonscourt, in order to stake their claim to being first in, that's one thing, as that requires genuine effort. Knock yourself out. But this checking in every four to six hours, just because they have the freedom to do so, is nonsense. You see them every time Bruce plays, wandering around Dublin city centre, with their numbers written on their hand. "Oh, I'm in the queue." Jesus...

It was never officially organised or approved by Aiken. They just never previously denounced it publicly and relented to the practice on the day at the gate to stop aggro over queue skipping.

very much a “let the diehards do their own thing” situation as long as it’s not you much hassle.

Sorry that's just not true. The promoters indifference to it shouldn't be construed as them working with the nutters.

Aiken simply require everything to be done in compliance with the license of the show. After that, they don't care.

Promoters couldn't give a monkeys about the queue and who is or isn't at the top of it. That's the job of the venue and/or its security in line with the license of the gig.

It's laughable that it's not only believed that there is a binding unwritten agreement but worse, only the higher-ups know about it and not the lads running twitter. Do you realise how demented that reads?

Didn't Aiken already deny any involvement in the fiasco. The roll callers publicly announced that their base is Sandymount Hotel - it's there for all to see on twitter. And Aiken deny any involvement in any events in Sandymount Hotel. Unless I am missing something.

This is it. It's mob mentality where people see fifty losers with a misplaced sense of entitlement skipping the queue en-masse and think that "hey, this must be organised" purely because there are a group of them.

It isn't. If you see it, complain to security.

Aiken teams supported the queues at all the ESB shows for more than a decade.

Sounds like a great idea

They did, this isn't that.

Except Aiken have explicitly said it's nothing to do with them this time.

My mam and her friend are going to the show next Tues, they are technophobes to say the least and have paper tickets (paid extra for the paper version mind you). It was booked on someone elses Ticketmaster account and when we went in to the "My Events" tab it says the tickets were emailed but we dont have an email - have the digital tickets been released yet?

The idea of getting her to sign in to a Ticketmaster account on a Smartphone will be a nightmare, do you think they'll accept the paper copies?

This should really have been publicised prior to selling the tickets, a lot of Bruce Springsteen fans are of the era where they might not have a Smartphone or be able to use digital tickets.

If they paid the extra €5 and got paper copies, they just bring the paper copies. I think everyone who bought a ticket received an email about e-tickets, even if you'd got the hard copy. This may have caused confusion.

All my tickets are paper tickets too. I like preserving them for the archive.

Which is worse, the clowns queueing for days, or those complaining on here non stop for days about the clowns queuing, (or indeed me complaining about the clowns complaining about the clowns queuing....)

Let it go lads!

You missed the last 3 roll calls about complaining so you can't complain, please grab a number from an arbitrary spot I'll announce on my Facebook that you may or may not have access to before you complain again. This is a completely legitimate scenario that I ran by Bruce's wife's cousin's son's aunt who's husband's brother's mother in law once let Nils lofgrens hairdresser in front of her in the deli.