Would you support a new Rural Political Party

Farming sites is a logical farming enterprise, if it's allowed. Farms are businesses and look at different models to generate income. The current owners will look at whatever incentives, grants and regulations and make decisions that suits their needs. You can get a great multiplier in value on your agricultural land if you can sell it as sites. The downside of course is that the land is lost to other farm enterprise production.

The Michael Collins/Mattie McGrath would seem to be fishing in the area of Aontu.

No, not because we are "the highest". Every sector needs to reduce and has targets. Agriculture has the lowest % reduction target due to the reasons I outlined, and in ten years time will pro rata be even higher than now. This does not make our agricultural sector more environmentally damaging than our European counterparts.

Good point breezy. We need a farmer says NO party. We have been the punch bag of every inbred bollax who gets an idea. A militant wing would be handy too. If we don't like a comment or a law we can burn down the Reichstag. Have sinn fein any hand book left over from a few years ago. A few tips on knee capping and kidnapping always handy.

Democracy is getting a bit tired when the majority is being forced by the minority.

If we wait the family farming will go like the fishermen in West cork

As a city dweller I would happily support a party that can help the towns and villages the majority of my friends either come from or commute from.

Thing about a city is only about half the people I know are from a city and about 10% of the people I work with grew up in a city.

What I won't support is NIMBYs and people who think 1950s ideas can be maintained.

Only reason that it has a lower limit is that there is a realisation that it is not the polluter.

It is the only industry that removes carbon.

The emissions from livestock is carbon that has been removed over the previous 21 days.

The emissions from agriculture are from fuel and electricity burned and fertiliser spread.

Agriculture got ####ed over in Paris in 2015.

Respiration (from all living beings) is not counted, including that from farm animals. It is assumed that the only source of carbon in respiration has been from the fuel or food eaten, and as all food is plant based, this carbon was removed through photosynthesis.

As it so happens, this is the exact same source as carbon in ruminant methane....but that IS counted...factor that...

Irish cows are attributed to belch the International calculated figure of 120kg per year. Teagasc measurements will show this to be 20 to 25% lower for Irish cows pasture systems.

Even attributing the 28 times damaging effect that methane causes and giving it its CO2-EQ figure, added to the cows 3650kg respired co2 (not counted), the CO2 removed by the grass the cow ate far exceeds and emissions she has.

So where did the carbon go?

Some is left over in the soil (currently being measured), but the rest went on as food for humans..the milk and the meat..and subsequently YOUR EMISSIONS..

You've hit on a problem there. What is rural? Dublin and Cork people talk about the towns as rural. Town people refer to themselves as Urban not Rural. The "Rural" that needs representation is not the "Non-City" areas.

The villages and random crossroad areas need better connection to the non city urban areas and those non city urban areas need growth so that the "real" rural people don't have to travel as long for work and amenities.

Like what exactly can any party or anyone at all do for the "one pub at a crossroads" type village.

If you want a rural party because " 5 of the 6 buildings in ballyxyz used to be booming pubs and we need that back" then sorry to say that world is gone forever.

By all means if it is suits and is within planning guidelines, but I wouldn't say it was an entitlement. If there were such an entitlement, would the children of non landowners/farmers in the locality be entitled to CPO sites?

A neighbours family are at that craic, 3 houses built in the last 15 years, another 1 going up now, but 2 of the first ones are empty. Time and time again you'd see a lot of the houses built on free sites sold on.

Look don't be worrying about it. Council/euro elections are around the corner. The general election in 25. I am surprised some of the rats have not left the ship already. Green will be like a curse word in the next year. Putting back on the tax on fuel the first of June. FF and FG TDS are bound to get the message that they are in trouble. Pity they didn't put the 10 euro congestion charge in the city. Really fuuuck themselves

Anyway it's a load of shite. When grass and bushes and trees ain't measured aint counted to see what carbon sequestration is happening. I would think a lot of farms in poorer land are taking in more than giving out.

Enough of Greenie stuff is other threads so to answer the question from the OP I have no idea if I would vote for a new Rural Party.Depends on the candidates and the policy platform they run on.

Hard enough to break the mould as people usually fall back on the familiar,in this case FF or FG normally.

See this is why a rural party is pointless. Totally stuck in the past. My daddy and my daddy's daddy stuff as I said earlier.

Pubs are going because people won't sit in them 7 days a week spending all their wages in there. It's not sustainable to have little villages full of pubs.

Unbelievable! As someone living very rural I can tell you the local pubs aren't failing for any reason other than the young people would rather go to the pubs and nightclubs in the nearest town. And, their loss isn't anything like a major issue for rural people. Indeed, for many the existence or not of a local pub is of little consequence. You seem to be stuck in a decades old view of rural life. As for drink driving, it's incredulous that anybody anywhere still condones it.

Well if getting to the pub is the big problem then thank God for the Green party who have been pushing an unprecedented rural bus scheme including front door pick up and drop off where possible.

And are also pushing the rural hackney scheme. There has probably never been a party has done as much for rural transport as the Greens.

Also nobody thinks a village having no pub is ok. A village trying to sustain a whole bunch of them with a 1k population is another story.

Front door pick up is a concept from someone with absoluty no understanding rural logistics.

It sounds like something that'd come out of a lad pissed drunk, smoking weed and trying to sound coherently intellegent during a late night "think in"..

The wans where we fix the world at 3am..

Well it works.

Do you have a better idea for rural transport ?

Well as someone who works with the elderly I can definitely say that's not an option for everyone.

Are you against rural transport ?

What exactly do you see as wrong with Local Link ?

And some places still have none at all. But other places have quite a good service.

Same as every bus service since the dawn of time some places have better frequency and routes than others.

But I suppose just because it doesn't suit you personally or far more likely because I mentioned the Green party you are bitter about it.

It takes 2 post office vans to do it. How long a day do they put in?

Green is another word for inexperienced or naive.

Green party gotta get this rural public transport out of their head. It can get you to school or college. If you work 9 to 5 in the city centre and can match with school times, there's some hope.

But we're staying with cars, like it or not.

What powers them is the question..

It's only over production if everyone is adequately fed otherwise unequal distribution is part of the problem. Just because some people dump food doesn't mean there's too much food in the country/ world.

Note we export food in the same way as other products like pharmaceuticals for example, we don't say the pharmaceutical companies are over producing even though they produce more than we need here.

How much is too much depends on many things. Do we ban imports and exports?

What do you mean what should we do with our emission targets.

Presumably aim to meet them, fail miserably and set even more ambitious targets we're less likely to meet.

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