Wokeism of the day Revised Mod Note in OP and threadbanned users

anewme · 27-04-2023 11:34pm

I really don’t understand the Bud Light controversy.

I don’t see the issue with a trans person drinking beer or being in an ad about it. Is that just not life now? I’d be more concerned with associating with people like Kid Rock.

Is the drama because the consumer is so conservative in the first place. ? Or is it totally unrelated but because “influencer” is not a profession.

If the negative feedback was around Nike and the sportswear, I could understand the reasoning.

I will say that the Brand has shown no integrity in the way it has treated Dylan Mulvanney, whether you agree with the sponsorship or not.

TooTired123 · 28-04-2023 6:27am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120530232#Comment_120530232

I started to type something here but I realise that if I give the answer I’d like then I’d suffer a mod action.

Can I just ask you, are you a woman and do you think that DM is a woman?

28-04-2023 6:52am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120530232#Comment_120530232

The drama/controversy is a simple one - they just don't like trans people.

And a frightening number of them want trans people eradicated

It's one thing arguing that a biological female should be promoting a women's line of clothing "Won't somebody please think of the women" - from the same people that rip the piss out women's sports and wish women had the same voting rights and were as subservient as the 18th century.

But the whole mask slipped when they brought out the shotguns and rifles and started blasting slab of cans and telling Budweiser to go **** themselves, all because a transwoman was sipping their pissy muck in an ad.

Cordell · 28-04-2023 8:20am

What about when a trans person with a trans manifesto started blasting a school? Was that worse than blasting cans? So far the only eradication was done the other way.

Quantum Erasure · 28-04-2023 9:45pm

Not exactly 'woke', but I think Paul Murphy would agree...

Couple's gender reveal ends in tears after bakery filled cake with wrong frosting

The internet was left angry for a couple after a baby gender reveal cake was ruined by the bakery - which placed white icing in a cake instead of pink or blue frosting.

https://www.express.co.uk/life-style/life/1763971/baby-reveal-cake-wrong-bakery-tiktok-dxus

Potential-Monke · 28-04-2023 10:04pm

Bit brave of them deciding the gender of the child before its born. White was the right answer. Bakery got it right. Terrible parents.

archfi · 28-04-2023 10:07pm

...🤷‍♂️🤡...

https://twitter.com/jonkay/status/1651958950252642305

Karppi · 28-04-2023 10:09pm

I really do worry about the survival of our species when I read such pure and unadulterated crap as this. FFS

AllForIt · 28-04-2023 10:24pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120533965#Comment_120533965

Gender reveal parties are transpobic.

Economics101 · 29-04-2023 2:10pm

Surely the wokeism of the year so-far is the decision of TCD to de-name the B*****y library.

I'm glad I went to a sane place like UCD!

growleaves · 29-04-2023 2:42pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120530232#Comment_120530232

Because Bud had a wild frontier image that became part of the self-image of a certain kind of 'Murica! guy in a pickup truck. That was the brand. 'Transitionsing' to womanhood is the anthesis of that image of rugged individualism. (Monty Python beat them to it here).

It was a genuis piece of cultural subversion to put a trans on the can. But of course advertising isn't supposed to be about f*cking with people, is it? (Or is it?)

If you're a leftist who likes f*cking with people and that's your forté then you're fighting your spiritual/cultural war to bulldoze everything 'traditional' and everybody understands that, but its not serving the customer if that's your product.

In theory, you're supposed to be making a profit (though the way large financial corporations and their assets are managed and funded, that doesn't matter nearly as much as joe soap supposes).

I think people are far too lenient with all big corporations. They have no authority to dictate to people - just money.

NIMAN · 29-04-2023 2:55pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120529413#Comment_120529413

The thing is, 99% of the population would think the band are wrong. 99% of the population think that's a man.

I really hope to see them bomb at Eurovision. Fed up seeing nonsense stories like this in the media. They think they are being so woke and inclusive. F&%& em.

eggy81 · 29-04-2023 3:01pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120533989#Comment_120533989

So much mental illness out there.

anewme · 29-04-2023 4:50pm

Thanks everyone for the feedback re Bud Light. I didn’t know Dylan Mulvanney and did but know it was linked to 365 days of women / girlhood or whatever.

Looking at it now, it’s definitely the type of Americans feel threatened and can’t cope. I’d be more concerned about the kid rock types, he came across as a right psycho.

I would not bat an eyelid about a trans person drinking a can of beer in an ad. Id be more negative ti influencer being a real job but I’m not that generation so did it know if it was that.

I thought there would be more pushback about wearing women’s sports clothes as beer is unisex. But it’s more like…don’t touch our beer…it’s our heritage. Bit sad to be honest. Tgere was so much furore about ur, I thought there had to be more to it, but no.

It’s a tick box for the company who have now acted like complete weasels and the way they have treated Dylan Mulvanney and the marketing people show their real colours.

But as others say, this is true blame game corporation behaviour..” It wasnt us, it was two dodgy marketeers, and they are gone now”.

BattleCorp · 29-04-2023 7:39pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120536067#Comment_120536067

It’s a tick box for the company who have now acted like complete weasels and the way they have treated Dylan Mulvanney and the marketing people show their real colours.

How have Budweiser treated Dylan Mulvaney badly?

Quantum Erasure · 29-04-2023 9:19pm

WTF? I love Bannau Brycheiniog now

anewme · 29-04-2023 9:30pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120536637#Comment_120536637

Did you see them defending their Brand Ambassador in any way. ?

Maybe I missed part of the story.

Yeah_Right · 30-04-2023 12:20am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120527031#Comment_120527031

Thanks to the posters here who mentioned what it was this guy tweeted. Because I read the article I didn't see it mentioned. I wonder if that was because the site knew that most of their readers would agree with him.

30-04-2023 4:58am

Respect to the AG of Arkansas and her fight against WOKEism.

A truly compelling argument.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/en9xAVs7C1g

Quantum Erasure · 30-04-2023 7:30am

https://www.kqed.org/futureofyou/441784/the-controversial-research-on-desistance-in-transgender-youth

One of the more interesting takes I heard on persistence and desistance came from UCSF gender clinician Erica Anderson, who is transgender herself. She views the very notion of measuring persistence/desistance as something of a fool’s errand, because such definitions are mediated by changing cultural norms, the self-perceptions of children and the ways that researchers interpret them.

“We’ve got kids of varying sophistication levels of language trying to explain to other people who have no experience [being transgender]," Anderson said, "and it’s being driven by shifting professional understanding or consensus and culture. You’ve got moving parts. In that context we’ve got a dynamic situation where kids who might say ‘I’m a girl’ might have said five years ago ‘maybe I’m a girl.’ ”

Ehrensaft herself doesn’t even like to use the terms persistence and desistance. Those words imply something fixed — a binary state of yes or no. But younger generations of transgender people — and even younger generations in the general population — see gender as more protean, even customizable. Of nearly 28,000 respondents to the 2015 U.S. Transgender Survey, more than one-third said they were some form of nonbinary. That means they may identify as both male and female, neither male nor female, or sometimes male, sometimes female.

This, in theory, could solve a lot of problems. After all, if the gender fluidity trend continues, perhaps many people will have no unitary gender to "persist" or "desist" from.

growleaves · 02-05-2023 12:27pm

Berkeley, California both the city and the university are named for George Berkeley also.

His philosophy reminds me of the weird "we live in a simulation" mind-mush that you see pushed in the media a lot now.

silverharp · 02-05-2023 2:26pm

it takes a village idiot to raise kids these days apparently, I'd like to think its a skit but it doesnt look like acting. the media is really doing a number on people's brains, but if staged, still funny

https://twitter.com/censoreddottv/status/1653045171297083392

sonofenoch · 03-05-2023 9:41am

'Rowing is elitist and white'......Sir Steve Redrave on Sky sports, why is he only saying that now after so many years in the game? is it because it's a popular view now

And tell that to the lads travelling up and down the amazon in canoes on a daily basis

Cordell · 03-05-2023 11:53am

The fact that she's white I think it was well known, and a "Sir" calling someone elitists it's pretty much kettle calling the pot black.

PaoloGotti · 03-05-2023 12:14pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120549400#Comment_120549400

Let’s say a sport is elitist and white. I don’t see it as a negative thing. It would be like saying long distance running is for poor black people. It just is what it is. There is no malevolent being dictating who does what.

Strumms · 03-05-2023 3:42pm

im sure in time we’ll be told that our GAA teams are too white, our cricket team is too white….etc..

ohhh wait, that’s happening already…

one Kerry newspaper…

”Almost 16% of people living Kerry are of non-‘White Irish’ descent, yet our Gaelic football teams are almost exclusively made up of white Irish players. In Part II of a three-part series on racism in Irish sport, Adam Moynihan asks why so few foreign nationals and people of colour are lining out for their local GAA clubs.” another headlong desperate dive down into the wOkE sinkhole..

thats stat is probably fact, who knows… but why is it being disingenuously dressed up as racism ? Is there actual evidence to support that people and their participation is discouraged or blocked because of their race / ethnicity ? GAA teams are being accused of racism … otherwise why mention that in journalistic efforts that purport to be “…….three-part series on racism in Irish sport,…”

if I relocated to India tomorrow I’d have feck all interest in Kabaddi, their indigenous sport… they’d probably even if i did have little interest in me.

there is just a likelihood that people who haven’t grown up watching GAA have no interest in it…I doubt that clubs are turning away or discouraging kids from differing ethnical backgrounds…..People like Craig Dias, Jason Sherlock, Lee Chin ? Stellar careers at the top of their chosen sport, race was no barrier to success…participating and achieving…

Jason Sherlock…Respectable and successful career in Gaelic football, soccer, basketball…. Gone on to have a stellar professional career working in DCU.

so can’t see much in the way of elitism, racism or discrimination…. Pure wOkErY.

Cordell · 03-05-2023 4:00pm

if I relocated to India tomorrow I’d have feck all interest in Kabaddi, their indigenous sport

You are both right and wrong about this: You are right because that's exactly what happens, the non-Irish people don't engage and don't really care about GAA. And you are wrong to not assimilate the culture of the country you have chosen to make it your home.

The racism (including the cultural type) of the immigrants is the main obstacle, not GAAs.

cdeb · 03-05-2023 4:57pm

I don't think it's racist for, say, an Indian to come to Ireland and not like hurling.

But it is absolutely what explains what Moynihan's talking about (I was only talking to some Russians about it recently actually). It's just human nature, and shows that the inevitable consequence of multi-culturalism is mono-culturalism.

I'm sure Moynihan, in the interests of journalistic balance, will soon have an article decrying the anti-Irish racism endemic in sports like cricket and chess.

Cordell · 03-05-2023 5:12pm

It's not liking it because you don't like it, and it's not liking it because you don't even want to see what's all about.

cdeb · 03-05-2023 5:59pm

"It's not liking it because you don't like it"

I don't think that's racist though. It's just the nature of culture and heritage. Moynihan seems unaware people don't magically change culture just because they travel a few thousand miles

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