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Star Trek: Picard - Amazon Prime [** POSSIBLE SPOILERS **]

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  • Registered Users Posts: 25,979 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    He was also a mercenary for a while. Picard knocks him out with a horse saddle.

    (Ent-B was Generations not First Contact)



  • Registered Users Posts: 7,456 ✭✭✭corkie


    Lieutenant

    An Enterprise-B lieutenant

    This lieutenant attempted to beam aboard El-Aurian refugees from the Lakul but was unable to get a lock because they seemed to be in a sort of temporal flux. He later reported the falling percent of the ship's hull integrity. (Star Trek Generations)

    This lieutenant was played by Tim Russ, better known as Tuvok from Star Trek: Voyager.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,786 ✭✭✭Evade


    That was Tim Russ playing a different character but Tuvok was on the Excelsior.



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,111 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    That was a human on Enterprise B wasn't it? Wasn't Tim Russ a Klingon in DS9 as well?

    I was playing a PS5 videogame called Horizon Forbidden West recently and Tim turns up playing a tribal chaplain with a mission for our hero, Aloy.



  • Registered Users Posts: 25,979 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    He played 3 non Tuvok characters (also a changeling I suppose) and...



    In Spaceballs he didn't play sh1t




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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,469 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Wait that was Tim Russ in Spaceballs?

    You say it, and share the photos and I still don't see it lol



  • Registered Users Posts: 25,979 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Officially known as "Trooper with Comb" or "Desert Combing Trooper" if you go by Wikipedia.



  • Registered Users Posts: 487 ✭✭Metalpanic




  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,469 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    He's no Jeffrey Combs though!

    You're not a proper Star Trek 'til he cameos.



  • Registered Users Posts: 25,979 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    I always think of this guy. Who was also in X-Files and Buffy.

    One I never knew until today was.

    This guy

    played this guy

    On Ceti Alpha 5.

    Shocked

    when I checked IMDB.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,786 ✭✭✭Evade


    Wait until you find out the Federation Ambassador from Star Trek V fled to the Klingon Empire, got surgery to blend in with the locals, became chancellor, faked his death, then fled to Cardassia, got surgery to blend in with the locals again, and tortured Picard for fun.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,469 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Episode 2 and what's this strange feeling I'm experiencing? It's like ... ... enjoyment?

    The moody lighting's stupid, as was the reverse tractor beam, but overall the DNA was there; characters behaving as expected, decisions appropriate for a piece of fiction. Even Raffi's bit worked, even if it still feels like a character in search of a purpose.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,786 ✭✭✭Evade


    Blame Wesley, he invented the reverse tractor beam way back in the Naked Now.



  • Registered Users Posts: 24,062 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Finally got around to finishing this.

    The writing was absolutely diabolical, I mean really laugh out loud with irony poor, but I enjoyed it for the aEaster eggs all the same.



  • Registered Users Posts: 15,360 ✭✭✭✭Vicxas


    Stopped watching Season 2 around episode 4 and never went back to it until this week. Trying to get through it caus people tell me season 3 is awesome. But it is like chewing nails, the writing and premise is soooooo boring.



  • Registered Users Posts: 7,456 ✭✭✭corkie


    @Vicxas You probably did not have to watch Season 2, to enjoy Season 3.? 😎



  • Registered Users Posts: 346 ✭✭eadrom


    Do yourself a favour, skip it. It has absolutely nothing to do with season 3 and just gets worse as it goes along.

    Like really, maybe the worst thing about season 3 was that it brought back memories of season 2. Spare yourself, while you still can.



  • Registered Users Posts: 25,979 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    The only good thing about watching season 2 is it's like a documentary about just how incredibly bad a show can fuk up.

    I still can't get over some of the mad stuff that happens. My favourite minor thing is

    Picard recognized the bullet holes in the wall of his house from the battle. But they also beamed 1 of Seal Team Borg into the wall. How does he not remember growing up with that 🤣



  • Registered Users Posts: 7,661 ✭✭✭Inviere


    Finished Season 3 there recently. OK, the bad first...so it's unashamedly, completely self indulgently, an absolute nostalgia fest. Strip away the almost fan-fic levels of nostalgia, and the plot is pretty thin on the ground. It's all completely bound together by nostalgia.

    But....after the eye rolling ending of Season 1, followed by the slog that was Season 2...screw it, I don't care. If this is to be the official swan song on the TNG crew, then Season 3 was more than welcome to double down on nostalgia imo.

    It worked beautifully well, I thoroughly enjoyed every minute of every episode. It became less so a nostalgia fest, and turned into a rousing love letter to a show I grew up with (and more.) The fleet museum scene was absolutely epic, like seeing some old friends again after a long long time. The D reveal was goose bump inducing, and the detail, my god the detail of the internal recreation was mind blowing. I purposely looked for an Okuda name during the post credits of that episode, and sure enough, Mike popped up. Sensational that was.

    Absolutely brilliant, from start to finish. Hats off, they finally found a formula that works. Another wonderful nod was the name Anton Chekov, beautiful touch I thought.

    One of the HUGE elements for me was the sound stage and soundtrack....they completely nailed it. The subtle, and not so subtle connections were wonderfully done. The end credits playing the First Contact theme worked so damn well too. I could go on and on.

    Between Picard S3, SNW, and LD, I've enjoyed all of it through and through. Discovery can't hold a candle to any of them, so the sooner it ends the better.



  • Registered Users Posts: 15,360 ✭✭✭✭Vicxas


    Burned through season 2, skipping over the awful, AWFUL Jurati/ Seven/ Raffi bullshit and pretty much watched the recaps at the start of each episode.

    Im halfway through season 3 and im almost ready to forgive Star Trek for Discovery and Season 2. Its a complete nostalgia trip but honestly i dont care.



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  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Help & Feedback Category Moderators Posts: 25,288 CMod ✭✭✭✭Spear


    The indulgent nostalgia has barely started if you're only at the half way point.



  • Registered Users Posts: 15,360 ✭✭✭✭Vicxas


    The above comment pleases me



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,469 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Interesting interview with Terry M'talas. He firstly confirmed that "Star Trek: Legacy" is just still a pipe-dream and nothing is actually happening just yet. But he also elaborated on something noted by some about the tone of the show.

    Emphasis mine: Matalas effectively confirming that yes, this season was drawn as more of a new Trek Movie than TV show in terms of how it treated the characters; and interesting that it was a conscious choice that was understood and acknowledged - rather than some blind swing taken by someone who didn't understand the source material in the first place.

    I think it could be a mix-and-match. Again, let me be clear: there's nothing in development. It's just an exciting pie-in-the-sky idea. But it would mix and match. But I would love to go back to the spirit of Star Trek: The Next Generation quite a bit. This last season of Picard is not Season 8 of Star Trek: The Next Generation. It's more Star Trek 11. It's a movie. The characters are much closer to their cinematic versions than they are Star Trek: The Next Generation versions of their characters. I would love to go back to the spirit of Star Trek: The Next Generation as much as you can, but we'd have to see if it would be possible. Who knows? 




  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    You know, a lot of the time this would be arse covering but a showrunner to negative reception but

    1. Given the reception of the show
    2. The knowledge on screen
    3. Hearing the Okudas and Drexlers gush

    I'm inclined to believe him. He seems like a proper fan and "gets" the vision of the show.

    Unfortunately the studio heads will just see the numbers and assume that movie Trek on the small screen is all people want



  • Registered Users Posts: 25,979 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    He didn't seem like he "gets the show" when he made season 2 of Picard.

    He had said before that he is a huge TOS movie fan and that's his Trek which is why s2 had a lot of Voyage Home stuff and s3 was very Wrath of Khan.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,469 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    We don't know the entirety of how and why Season 2 was as it was, and having watched 12 Monkeys it's not like Matalas didn't know how to fashion a vaguely intelligent sci-fi show. That show was far better than it had any right to be. Perhaps Matalas had less control over Season 2 than 3, but even if the second season's stink is on him, his comments struck as someone at least aware of what he was doing.

    Not ascribing genius or saviour to Matalas, but he seems to be cannier and more attuned to Trek than others. It'd be nice if as time goes on they're the type of people in control.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    He, apparently, was also the one pushing for a return to being on a ship with a starfleet crew as opposed to what was being insisted on originally



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,469 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    That would track with my totally-without-evidence theory season 2 was more obligation than season 3; perhaps by way of a compromise regards budget for a start. It was notable how well season 3 looked (lighting notwithstanding) compared with season 2s shítty generic modern locations. Maybe Matalas got his TNG season 3 in exchange for a cheap bit of tat the year before.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,786 ✭✭✭Evade


    Chabon was still on staff for season two too so I'm just going to blame him for it being so poor. I have no idea how involved he actually was but I'm still going to blame him.



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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,469 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    For one reason or another I didn't get a chance to keep watching this until now, but finally finished up episode 6 and uh, cards on table this is good stuff. As I've said I kept myself abreast so know what's coming by seasons end... but I've really enjoyed this journey so far. My posts in this thread talked a lot of shít about this show but credit where it's due, they finally got it right.

    Overcranked in places, and definitely has the energy of a Blockbuster than traditional meeting-room TNG but the spirit is all there, the characters true to themselves (even if more glib than they ever were). And credit to Patrick Stewart: this has been a sometimes phenomenal performance of subtly and wounded reflection. Lots of his best work simply moments of pain on his face as some truth or reality is imparted. I've even grown to like Jack. Hard to make someone that cocky and brattish while still charismatic in the Han Solo mode.



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