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What does the future hold for Donald Trump? - threadbans in OP

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    #19922
    everlast75
    Registered Users Posts: 19,406 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Anyway... More top legal news for 45


    https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1653873325758717953?s=20




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    #19923
    everlast75
    Registered Users Posts: 19,406 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120551592#Comment_120551592

    Yeah. Plenty interesting.

    Dumb and dumber.

    https://twitter.com/Nigel_Farage/status/1653836550931730432?s=20

    Jfc.



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    #19924
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users Posts: 40,413 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120552284#Comment_120552284

    You lied about comparing Rashford to Savile despite the posts being quoted back to you. Some people lie no matter if it is the best thing to do or not. Like your mate trump.



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    #19925
    MisterAnarchy
    Registered Users Posts: 14,702 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120552534#Comment_120552534

    I heard a bit of the interview, Trump seems to be slipping mentally.

    He claimed he would resolve the war in Ukraine in a day by brokering a peace deal as he knew Zelensky and Putin well.

    Then he said he'd restore the US Economy to how it was when he was there, the greatest economy ever and it would be easy to do.

    Lastly he was going to eradicate Crime from Democrat cities.

    Bold claims to say the least.



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    #19926
    Ahwell
    Registered Users Posts: 1,783 ✭✭✭Ahwell


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120552533#Comment_120552533

    I think you might want to check the first post of this thread ButeStock, I only know because I was hoping to find Eskimohunt's name there.



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    #19927
    PropJoe10
    Registered Users Posts: 5,298 ✭✭✭PropJoe10


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120552552#Comment_120552552

    After the way he bent over for Putin that time in Helsinki, I cannot honestly believe that people still swallow his "I'm an epic statesman and only I can fix the world's problems" drivel. His statements are quite good for comedy value at this stage, but not much else.



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    #19928
    MisterAnarchy
    Registered Users Posts: 14,702 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120552705#Comment_120552705

    Yes he seems to have become a caricature of himself at this stage.



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    #19929
    Overheal
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120552074#Comment_120552074

    The 2018 Farm Bill. Unclear what involvement he had in the crafting beyond the signing off however.



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    #19930
    Christy42
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120552552#Comment_120552552

    Is that not normal? I mean before nomination he claimed he was loved in new York and could win the massively democratic state. He was always discussing how people told him he was the smartest etc. He said healthcare would be so easy.


    I see no difference in the Trump that would make the above claims and the Trump from before ehe won the presidency. The same empty bluster.



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    #19931
    Overheal
    Registered Users Posts: 82,405 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120552297#Comment_120552297

    Is this you trying sleight of hand? It’s not working. You made a claim about your own post history: show the receipts or it didn’t happen.



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    #19932
    Overheal
    Registered Users Posts: 82,405 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120551926#Comment_120551926

    Eh a Fox News station was just shot up in the last few hours. I don’t think they are related but it would get your ears burning.

    https://www.mediaite.com/crime/watch-shooter-fires-into-fox-tv-station-as-staff-run-for-cover/




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    #19933
    rossie1977
    Registered Users Posts: 11,350 ✭✭✭✭rossie1977


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120552256#Comment_120552256

    Republican historians have Trump ranked in bottom 5 Presidents of all time so that tells you everything..

    If there was a positive of Trumps Presidency it's that Bush Jr doesn't look so bad now in comparison, Romney looks half decent human and John McCain looks almost Abraham Lincoln like compared to Trump lol



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    #19934
    Leroy42
    Registered Users Posts: 15,592 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120552721#Comment_120552721

    No, he was always this way but people didn't either take him seriously or thought it was all part of some cunning plan.

    Now everyone, well everyone except those blinded by cult, can see him for exactly what he is. A con man, liar, below average intelligence. Crass, lazy, uniformed. His style works well with 'Joe Public' because it is how they talk in pubs and golf clubs and shopping malls. They don't understand (and in many cases don't need to) the complexity of many things and thus think that solutions are relatively easy. And we are all 'Joe Public' in many areas.

    But to be POTUS you need not only to be capable of understanding but actually want to understand. Trump has never shown any appetite for understanding anything complex. Even Operation Warp speed was largely down to Trump getting out of the way and letting the experts get on with it.



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    #19935
    Quin_Dub
    Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 15,454 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120552464#Comment_120552464

    Hang on, hang on.

    We're constantly told that Bidens Border policy is a disaster and is ruining the nation and that his Trade and Foreign policies are destroying the US Economy.

    But now you are saying that they are the similar policies to the ones Trump followed?????

    I'm confused.

    Which is it , he's ruining the country (all while being asleep and completely unaware of his surroundings) or he's just carrying on the work that Trump started?



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    #19936
    TheIrishGrover
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    boards.png

    Again, I ask:

    How?



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    #19937
    [Deleted User]
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120553258#Comment_120553258

    If the thread were about the dangers of woke culture, I'd gladly dilate. So I'd rather stick to Trump, if you don't mind.

    Many people have been asking me: what are your criticisms of Donald Trump?

    I've many times said that my position is reasonably well established. I already said that I wouldn't want Donald Trump to become the GOP nominee, nor would I want him to become US President again. Though I largely support many of his policies [particularly when it comes to illegal immigration (6 million illegal migrants have so far crossed the border under Biden), the lunatic woke agenda, keeping biological males out of women's sport, tough on inner city crime etc], there are many other voices who can carry that message better, and without the associated excess baggage that comes with Trump. Whilst Trump was an outsider in 2016, the situation is very much different today. Though 60-70% of GOP voters would continue to back Trump, I wouldn't.

    A large part of the reason is the events of January 6, 2021 - when, as we all well know, Trump behaved utterly recklessly. It was unnecessary, and tarred Trump in a way that no political opponent could have achieved by themselves. He scored a massive own goal. If Trump is willing to behave like this once, there is every likelihood the situation may repeat in the future. Second, is that Trump's policies will outlive his political career anyway. The centre of gravity has very much shifted in the GOP, and so "Trumpism without Trump" makes sense. The novelty factor has wore off.

    Many people condemn Trump because he had an affair. I don't mind this, however. Most men either have affairs, or fantasize about having one during the course of their marriage. Do you really believe Melania is with Trump because she is utterly besotted with the man? Of course not! She's with him for the same reason he's with her; it's a marriage of convenience. And a loveless marriage like that means that it doesn't matter if Trump has an affair because the marriage is illegitimate to begin with. It's a marriage on false pretences.

    So whilst there are many good reasons to criticise Trump, particularly over the events of January 6, I don't believe his behaviour during marriage is a particularly good rebuke of the man.



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    #19938
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users Posts: 40,413 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120553365#Comment_120553365

    who mentioned his marriage? of all the things he has been criticised for on this thread i dont think his marriage even makes the top 100



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    #19939
    [Deleted User]
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120553374#Comment_120553374

    It was mentioned a couple of times earlier in the thread.



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    #19940
    everlast75
    Registered Users Posts: 19,406 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120553365#Comment_120553365

    "If the thread were about the dangers of woke culture, I'd gladly dilate. So I'd rather stick to Trump, if you don't mind."

    (Two paragraphs later)

    ".......the lunatic woke agenda"

    Culture war obsessed nonsense.



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    #19941
    martingriff
    Registered Users Posts: 10,863 ✭✭✭✭martingriff


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120548755#Comment_120548755

    I know it straight away from the Farage pic. Did not like the fact his past posting would be able to be seen after the board update



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    #19942
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users Posts: 40,413 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120553379#Comment_120553379

    a relatively minor indiscretion by trump standards. and i dont think anybody criticised him for having an affair ,though i'm not sure i would describe raping a woman or a quickie with a porn star as an affair. there are much more important things to criticise him for.



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    #19943
    [Deleted User]
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120553432#Comment_120553432

    For sure, and I raised the events of January 6 front and centre in my rebuke of Donald Trump. Of all possible criticisms, I think that event is without question the worst possible thing that Donald Trump did.

    But we can criticise Trump without resorting to delusional levels of hyperbole, sensationalism, fabrication, and lies.

    And unfortunately, that's what we often see peppered throughout this thread (i.e. TDS).



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    #19944
    Cody montana
    Registered Users Posts: 5,268 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120553365#Comment_120553365

    Were you not the fellow prematurely celebrating the midterms as saying it was a rejection of the woke agenda?

    And that it was a reflection on trump?



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    #19945
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users Posts: 40,413 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120553450#Comment_120553450

    a trump supporter complaining about delusional levels of hyperbole, sensationalism, fabrication, and lies. Thanks for the laugh.



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    #19946
    everlast75
    Registered Users Posts: 19,406 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120553450#Comment_120553450

    T.D.S. ✅

    Woke Agenda ✅

    Very close to having a full house in "Buzzword Bullsh1t Bingo".

    Keep going mate!



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    #19947
    TheIrishGrover
    Registered Users Posts: 6,040 ✭✭✭TheIrishGrover


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120553365#Comment_120553365

    That is not what I asked.

    AT ALL.

    You stated: Woke and far-left activism seek to destroy all that's valuable about freedom of speech and western culture

    trump and the GQP are campaignng on an anti-woke agenda and I asked a question of one word: How?


    Instead I get a "If the thread were about the dangers of woke culture, I'd gladly dilate. So I'd rather stick to Trump" and then you go off on some total non-answer. If you don't want to answer the question. Don't reply to the question with a non-answer.

    But this IS about trump. And the GQP. This "anti-woke" stance is the CORNERSTONE of their policies. Not finance, not infrastructure, not the economy or jobs or international relations. woke.

    So I'll clarify: How, according to the GQP/trump.... According to YOU! (It's YOUR opinion. And you are absolutely 100% entitled to it). How is "Woke and far-left activism seek to destroy all that's valuable about freedom of speech and western culture"

    People can disagree of course. I disagree with this statement. People have considered me "woke" because I believe in equal rights for all communities. EQUAL rights. I may have my issues with certain communities, we all have our prejudices, but I believe in EQUAL rights for all. And to many, that IS one of the definitions of "woke". Then I am perfectly happy to be considered "woke"

    So to many I am "woke". To fox I am woke. To Carlson I am woke. To GQP I am woke. To TRUMP I am woke. and yet I don't "seek to destroy all that's valuable about freedom of speech and western culture". I like Western Culture. I like movies and music and free speech and meat. I like the ability to read what I want. If I don't want to rad something because I find it distasteful, I won't.

    But as I say, the GQP and trump campaign on the idea that "Woke and far-left activism seek to destroy all that's valuable about freedom of speech and western culture"

    And I say:

    HOW?



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    #19948
    duploelabs
    Registered Users Posts: 11,276 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120553379#Comment_120553379

    Where? I believe the comments made about the stormy Daniels affair he had were more directed at him being a father rather than a husband



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    #19949
    [Deleted User]
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120553472#Comment_120553472

    It's worth emphasizing that when Donald Trump talks about the so-called woke agenda, he's referring to the lunatic activists that animate the movement.

    He's not necessarily talking about individual people like yourself, who self-identify as "woke". Ultimately, it's the activists that are trying to destabilise western countries with abject, often self-loathing nonsense, and Trump - for all his faults - is at least willing to call that out.

    That said, I must re-emphasize that I believe there are better political vehicles than Trump to carry this message across.



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    #19950
    Quin_Dub
    Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 15,454 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120553504#Comment_120553504

    That potentially answers a question of "Who" , but you continue to fail to elucidate exactly HOW the "Woke" agenda is destabilising western countries.

    It's not the Who or even the What we are all interested in understanding it's the HOW, as has been called out repeatedly.

    • How exactly is it destablising to a country to acknowledge peoples differences , be they racial , religious ,sexual or otherwise?
    • How exactly is it destablising to a country to acknowledge that bad things that happened in that countries past?
    • How exactly is it destablising to a country to acknowledge that some bad things are still happening in that country?
    • How exactly is it destablising to a country to acknowledge the existence of inequality?
    • How exactly is it destablising to a country to acknowledge that not everyone wants the same things in life?




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    #19951
    TheIrishGrover
    Registered Users Posts: 6,040 ✭✭✭TheIrishGrover


    You stated: Woke and far-left activism seek to destroy all that's valuable about freedom of speech and western culture

    I stated that people consider me "Woke" because of my beliefs of equal rights.

    Now you are saying "Well, they don't mean you".

    So you mean extreme left wing?

    That is NOT what you and fox and trump and the GQP state

    So you have no answer on how Woke and far-left activism seek to destroy all that's valuable about freedom of speech and western culture


    OK.

    Thank you.


    Edit: Typo ("S" at end of Thank)



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