Russia - threadbanned users in OP

Some posters seem to think it is a false flag. I don't buy this, as the image of a drone getting anywhere near the Kremlin makes Russia look incredibly weak and it is humiliating. A drone or whatever it was would never get that close to the White House.

Of course it suits Ukraine to deny it was them, they don't attack Russia directly, yet have saboteurs conducting secret missions on the border and inside Russia. Russia won't go nuclear, so there threats in response to this attack are rather empty ,as it seems they can't carry out a successful strike on Kyiv due to the modern air defenses systems Ukraine has now. Which yet again demonstrates by and large conventional Russian military equipment is no match for the West. Perhaps their hypersonic missile is the exception, but they have very little of those

Why was Putin up on the roof in the first place?

I still don't subscribe to this view, as the image it conveys is of Russian impotence. Cast your mind back to the recent recruitment propaganda campaign, it underscores how Russia is obsessed with projecting an image of strength and vitality, an enemy missile or drone flying close to the Kremlin projects an image of weakness.

Exactly,

But ask why the Russians keep saying that the Ukrainans tried to kill putin at his residence, the Russians and would Know putin doesn't live in ybe the Kremlin, from what I can gather he's only been to the Kremlin several times this year, usually at night and with a massive convoy,

If this was ukraine why would they deny it ,it was be a huge propaganda coup saying we can get you in Moscow and anywhere else in Russia,but no they are coming out and saying it's nothing to do with us ,

The other option is the start of an internal power struggle inside of the Kremlin, putin will likely stay inside his bunker for the foreseeable future, making him look weak Just as much as Russia

He drank the Kool-Aid a long long time ago.

He's married to a Russian and has lived there. He's even been interviewed on RT.

His twitter feed has been an absolute dumpster fire during this invasion.

Perun did a great video on the competing interests in Russia between the MoD and the PMCs. Basically it all comes down to Putin's primary goal, which is to stay in power. Having the Wagner group and the Chechen's operate as almost independent armies seems crazy until you realise that it dilutes the strength of the Russian army, thereby reducing the chance of a coup at any point. That's the same reason that Gerasimov and Shoigu have been kept at the top of the army despite the utter shambles that they have presided over - they're loyalists who can be trusted and that's more important to Putin than competence.

Prigozhin understands this dynamic all too well. I'm not sure he has ever actually criticized Putin directly. He instead criticises the Russian MoD and specifically Shoigu. That's entirely allowable under the perverse rules of Kremlin politics.

Lot of nonsense being spouted over this so called Kremlin attack. All that is needed is to juxtapose a photo of a few puffs over the golden palace of Moscow with images of obliterated towns and villages in Ukraine. Utter nonsense.

They did carry assignations in NATO countries. They did what can be qualified as a chemical attack in the UK which failed to kill the target but killed a UK citizen. So it's fair to say that they would do it if they would have the chance.

Two of his doubles.

Nice one. I must admit that I never had any time for her but she has just gone up in my estimation.

Pretty telling that she had to turn the comments off. I'd say there'd be plenty on her "side" who would be furious about that take.

Some reports say that the main offensive due (in days) has been put back due to bad ground conditions for now?

I only learned the word campist last week:

Noun[edit]

campist (plural campists)

1. Synonym of third-campist
2. (derogatory, politics, socialism, slang) A leftist who supports any country/organization simply for being opposed to the United States or the West, including authoritarian governments who would otherwise not follow leftist beliefs.

What I have learned in the past year is that the vast majority of the far-left are nothing but campists.

This Russian invasion has been a real litmus test. There's an actual bona-fide fascist dictatorship mounting an invasion of another nation, where they are looking to entrench the rule of oligarchy and kleptocracy, crush human rights and freedom of expression, all egged on by religious zealots. But wait....the USA is backing the other side. "I've heard enough. Case closed! Time to contort myself into a pretzel while I go to bat for the invaders liberators!"