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Victory day parade organised in Dublin by the Russian supporters

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  • Registered Users Posts: 507 ✭✭✭Antipathetic


    You do realise that Russia has state controlled media so even if the people went out and protested very few at home would know about it, protesting abroad does nothing to change the situation at home at the end of the day all it is is virtue signaling.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2


    You know what's not virtue signalling?

    The lead filled corpses of young Russian men littering the ditches and fields of Ukraine getting eaten by birds as carrion. The lucky ones get what's left of them dumped into a lead casket to be sent back the their mothers* for secret funerals in sh*thole provincial villages so that the Kremlin can disguise war losses. Sent there to get vapourized by a fascist KGB creep, and cheered on by useful idiots abroad whose brains are gloop.

    That's not virtue signalling.

    Workers of the world unite, raise the flag of socialism etc etc



  • Registered Users Posts: 345 ✭✭lizzyjane


    This is why they are overwhelmingly voted the biggest threat to world peace in global public opinion polls. Most on here criticising Russia would have never ever talked about America in the same breath over there invasion and war crimes in Iraq or Afghanistan.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 345 ✭✭lizzyjane




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  • Registered Users Posts: 507 ✭✭✭Antipathetic


    I presume you can provide proof that all of them support the current regime? There are other ways of protesting that don't involve making a big show perhaps some of them phoned their relatives back home and encouraged them not to support the war.

    Or should we just assume guilty by association.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2


    Why are you so squeemish about what you're cheerleading comrade?

    Desperately trying to change the subject to America when the youth of Russia is getting thrown into a blender, dehumanizing themselves at the behest of fascism. Performing acts of door-to-door murder and terror in Bucha and Mariupol that definatively outstrip anything in scale Americans have got up to for the last 50 years. You know what Austrians call the Soviet war memorial in Vienna? The tomb of the unknown rapist.

    This is what you've hitched your wagon to my friend. Time to confront it, and yourself. I know it's hard to admit you're a useful idiot. But as you go to sleep tonight and your head hits the pillow, you know it's true.

    Peace happens in Ukraine when the last sorry Russian soul drags himself across the international demarcation line never to come back other than with an expression of atonement for his sins. The comrades he left behind nourishing the black earth of Ukraine.

    Long story short, you're a cheerleader for fascism and murder. Don't insult the word peace and use it when you absolutely do not mean it.



  • Registered Users Posts: 507 ✭✭✭Antipathetic


    You have lost me I think you are getting me confused for someone else I guess that is easy to do when you spend so long online spreading hate spending too much time in front of the computer on social media is proven to lower IQ.

    For the record I support no side I am strongly antiwar both this one and others. Just because I believe that there should be peace negotiations between both sides in order to try and prevent more bloodshed both Russian and Ukrainian doesn't make me a Putin supporter no matter what you say.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2


    These muttonheads have seriously convinced themselves that the Russian gopnik parade is some sort of anti-war gesture, as opposed to the exact opposite - a brazen display of Russian nationalism when their country is on a murder rampage.

    They're beyond help. You hope against hope that they partly know they're talking through their ass, but I wouldn't hold out much hope they've actually switched their brain into gear that much yet.



  • Registered Users Posts: 507 ✭✭✭Antipathetic


    I must have missed it has the celebration already passed or are you able to foresee events in the future?

    And I'm sure you have plenty of evidence that the people turning up are doing so because it was organised by the Russian state?

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  • Registered Users Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2


    You're not anti war, you're looking for Russia to get an out, save face and take territory. You want to reward fascism because you think it'll give a black eye to America/NATO/Whoever - because you've been suckling at the teet of a nonsense moribund ideology. That's your modus operandi, and the give away is your idiotic avatar image - so don't try to slither away and pretend to be something you're not. We all know Tankie soft-soapers when we see one.

    I don't have a single social media account by the way, and you've been camped out here all day vomming nonsense so that attempt at a burn rings pretty hollow. I've had a slow Friday at work, what's your excuse? And don't bother with prattle about IQ. Because if I'm low IQ, you've just been wrecked and exposed all day long by a low IQ poster. Where does that put you on the intelligence distribution curve Einstein?

    You're shook, and a smoldering wreck.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,374 ✭✭✭SortingYouOut


    Such a pile of interest in such a pile of shite here.

    Beverly Hills, California



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,102 ✭✭✭greencap


    T'is funny to watch though.

    yer man, mr soft soap and his hatred of students, waxing mofo's and leaving them shook. lolol.

    threat vector.

    10-8 score cards. haha.



  • Registered Users Posts: 507 ✭✭✭Antipathetic


    No I am antiwar I wish the Invasion never happened and thousands of predominantly young men didn't have to die I strongly oppose all forms of violence and encourage others to seek peaceful solutions to problems I also realise that the world is not black and white.

    And yes I am unashamedly a communist as I believe that workers should be respected and own the fruits of their labour and the government should look after the health and welfare of its citizens.

    By the way forums are considered a form of social media I spent most of the day outside enjoying some of the sunshine only occasionally popping in to challenge you on your stream of hate posting.

    And thanks for your concern but no I haven't been wrecked by you or anyone else sorry champ but you have repeatedly failed to deliver a knockout blow

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  • Registered Users Posts: 345 ✭✭lizzyjane


    Nobody is condemning Russia's actions. There should be peace sought by western nations instead of fanning the flames and prolonging the war that will lead to more bloodshed, plenty more Ukrainians than Russians.



  • Registered Users Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2


    Well that's lot of popping in and out of the sunshine you were doing in that case.

    Buttercup, you're a serious joke. You were posting big talk in the other thread about Ukraine provoking the invasion, and don't even deny it. You also objected to the word rape being used, despite the widespread evidence of mass sexual violence commited by Russian forces. Pretty revolting.

    You have some serious soul-searching to do, and you deliver a serious insult the word peace every time you use it. You have no interest in peace, only Tankie propaganda victories.





  • "I am unashamedly a communist".

    That being the case you would be against imperialism unconditionally I take it? And by 'unconditionally' I'm including Russian imperialism by definition.



  • Registered Users Posts: 507 ✭✭✭Antipathetic


    With the amount of posting that you did today I'm surprised you managed to get any work done and I do wonder what your employers would think if they were ever misfortunate enough to see your posts.

    As I am sure that you are aware the world is not black and white good versus evil Ukraine and NATO could have taken some actions prewar to try and address any security concerns that Russia had for example I personally don't see a problem with them remaining neutral and unlined with NATO they could have also potentially treated the people in the Donbass better and perhaps with a neutral observing country held a referendum in the region to see if the people living there really did want their independence from Ukraine.

    I'm sorry if the above in your hate-filled reality makes me some form of tanky or what other cheap insult you come up with.

    Perhaps rather than reading internet forums you could brush up on some history and learn that we do not live in a perfect reality where there are always simple choices.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,104 ✭✭✭pcardin


    fcuk no! No to this Nazi scum. I shall go there and throw eggs on these Z-tards.



  • Registered Users Posts: 507 ✭✭✭Antipathetic


    Absolutely I am against all imperialism and other ideologies that seek to force their ideas on others. I hope in my lifetime with the increasing pace of AI we will enter into a new golden age of humanity free from war mongers and their supporters where humans are free to choose their own path in life and humanity is looked after by benevolent artificial minds similar to what is depicted in the culture series of books.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2


    🤣

    I work for myself, and before you say it, I do quite alright for myself.

    Tankie is not a cheap insult when I deploy it with characters like yourself. You literally brandish a hammer and sickle avatar and have been peddling excuses as to why Russia invaded, and spit the dummy when it's pointed out to you that Russian forces have committed mass sexual violence in Ukraine. It's utterly revolting by any standard, and you are a classic dyed in the wool Tankie. You are a texbook definition if it.

    Seriously, take a running jump with "security concerns". No one has touched Russian territory or threatened its sovereignity since the end of the Cold War. It's an excuse for the cognitively undeveloped and chronically naive, and yes the credulous Tankie. There are no credible moral excuses for Russia's invasion. Putin wanted to seize land and take revenge on Ukraine for daring to orientate Westwards, and he went for it. That you're credulous enough to guzzle Kremlinite woe is me tales as to why he went for it is an indictment of whatever education system you went through.

    And Buttercup, I would take you to the cleaners on matters history.





  • That's fair enough. At least you're honest as many would avoid discussing imperialism as a concept outside the box. The box being the usual suspects of the US, Britain and other Western European nations.

    "where humans are free to choose their own path in life"

    Isn't Putin by his very action of invading Ukraine denying this right to Ukrainians? Shouldn't he be kicked out of the country to restore this right to ALL Ukrainians?



  • Registered Users Posts: 309 ✭✭Astartes


    Leave them off. They and I mean THEY did defeat the greatest evil known to man. That should be recognised forever regardless of contemporary differences (I realise "differences" is doing a lot of heavy lifting). I feel their achievement of Victory Day should supercede our personal opinion on the outrage of the last couple of years

    I appreciate Russia and it's people for what it sacrificed for us then.

    Call me a shill Putin playbooker all you want but this really should be treated as a solemn time for everyone.



  • Registered Users Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2


    "Isn't Putin by his very action of invading Ukraine denying this right to Ukrainians? Shouldn't he be kicked out of the country to restore this right to ALL Ukrainians?"

    You're not going to get a straight answer on this point from him. He'll furrow his brow and say something sly like "oh it's terrible altogether", but then deliver and excuse as to why Putin elected to invade and how it's ultimately the CIA/Nato/Saucer People's fault and the Kremlin simply had to do it.

    You're dealing with a Tankie, don't expect too much coherency. Ultimately, they believe the wellspring of all bad things is capitalism or some such nonsense, and the ultimate expression of that is the USA. Thus when Russian fascism rears it ugly head and goes to war to butcher, maim and seize territory, the USA or some other black hand is ultimately responsible, not the country committing the crime itself.



  • Registered Users Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2


    A convoy of Honda Civics honking horns waving Russian flags, and then a barbecue and vodka pissup after isn't exactly what I'd call a solemn tribute to the war dead.



  • Registered Users Posts: 507 ✭✭✭Antipathetic


    Sure I believe you 😉

    So I take it you don't agree that a American military bloc that was set up with the sole intention of containing Russia setting up shop, regardless of its stated intentions wouldn't be considered a threat by Russia and would warrant some form of response. Honestly how would the good old USA react if let's say Mexico joined a foreign alliance that the USA perceived as being openly hostile to it? Don't you think they would react perhaps negatively.

    I'm not excusing Russia despite what you try and claim but as I have said before life unfortunately isn't black and white we are not living in a kids movie.

    And lastly I highly doubt I could learn anything useful history wise from you considering how closed minded you are and your failure to acknowledge that events in history have nuance rather than simplistic narratives.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,104 ✭✭✭pcardin


    learn history for once. Soviet union was not Russians only. And do you also appreciate the fact they they helped nazis to invade Poland?



  • Registered Users Posts: 507 ✭✭✭Antipathetic


    Despite what @Yurt2 said I am able to give you a clear response, I fully condemn this invasion as I condemn all violent actions where others seek to impose their will on to others the citizens of each country should be free to choose their own fate without foreign interference and I do hope in my lifetime we enter a new age of enlightenment free from flawed human leaders.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2


    Nato is not an "American military bloc". Every constituent member freely elects to join the Treaty (unlike lets say the Warsaw Pact which was formed at the barrell of the Moscow gun), and membership decisions are made by unanimity and states are free to leave at any stage. Every state in Europe is free to choose whatever mutual security arrangements they please according to OECD principles - to which the Russian Federation is a signatory.

    Russia can f*ck off on this point, they are party to agreements that acknowledge the freedom of European states to join whatever security pact they damn well please. They switched the goalposts when they copped on they couldn't influence the makeup of the Ukrainian government when the Ukrainian people said no to Russian interference.

    Tankie world history is no sort of history at all, it's brain fog fantasy to justify moribund ideology, and one that has a distinct fetish for autocratic regimes. And you're a prize example of it.



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  • "Uk and France were allied to Poland but didn’t declare war on USSR when they should have."

    That sounds like a really bad idea to me. Wouldn't that have driven Nazi Germany & Stalins USSR closer together as a consequence? How do the Western Allies defeat them if these two totalitarian states don't turn on each other?



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