General British politics discussion thread

Suppose my view is biased by living in North Inner City, which looking back was a pretty apathetic ward in a useless city council. SDCC seemed a lot saner.

So you think if the local elections were held on their own, our turnout would be as dreadful as England's?

Pretty sure they said all protesters would be arrested. They can use all sorts of public order, the new protest laws or even claim it's for the safety of the protester excuses. The last one is probably true given how froth mouth they get about certain things in England.

The right who are apparently against cancel culture never learn. We have known since Monthly Python that trying to stop something is great publicity. I had never heard of the Republic leader until he got arrested.

Making martyrs out of molehills.

I notice a lot of the far right grifters like Farage and GB News types are all over the Coronation. It's fascinating to see right wing English nationalists lay claim to the monarchy, even though the likes of Charles would probably be disgusted by them as people and want nothing to do with any of them.

Let's be honest a large part of the appeal is that Kate is good looking.

There is serious pushing and essentially gaslighting about how amazing she is and how she is some sort of reincarnation of similar vacant celebrities like Diana Spencer, Jackie Kennedy and Grace Kelly.

You are kind of ignoring the original seat count here, and the new seat count. Which is understandable as the media seems to use 'gained/lost' as the only metric as well.

Labour went into it with 2100 councillors, Libs with 1200 and Greens with 250. So almost be definition there was less scope for Labour to gain than the other two parties. Gaining 500 from an already high basepoint is surely a decent result. 35% FPV is also good, especially as there was no voting in Wales, Scotland or London. 35%, excluding these areas, is the sort of figure which points to an overall majority in the next GE, but not enough to push it into 1997 Blair territory.

Still a two party system. If conservatives don't win it will be a win for labour. Labour are big favourites for the next election. Plus it is generally quite a slim number of total votes actually required for a full victory with fptp.

I accept all the criticism of my succinct post.

I didn't take into account any difference in seat counts, or the starting positions of the different parties, and I am aware that what happens at a local elections does not necessarily transfer to a general election. And while it is a two party system there has been a coalition government 13 years ago and a minority Tory government, (May) more recently.

I am not trying to rain on Labours parade. Voters are clearly unhappy with the Tories and are abandoning them in droves. And Labour are picking up more of these than any other party. But they are not picking up most of them. A coalition of Labour and LibDems would be a strong possibility I would have thought. And not such a bad idea either and it might instil a little bit of cross party dialogue sorely lacking in UK politics.

Quite a few people I know used it as cue to take a trip abroad. I personally assumed most people attending would be foreigners and fanatics so stayed in.

Long before E2 died I suspected that C3 would abdicate after only a few years. He's got too much baggage especially from the POV of other commonwealth countries.

Labour aren't going to repeal the anti-protest laws if they win the next election, as per David Lammy.

On the Public Order bill of 2022. "We can't come into office and start repealing Tory legislation. It would take up too much time."

So that's disappointing, though they did initially say they'd repeal the recent anti strike legislation so maybe they'll keep that pledge.