Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings and threadbans - updated 11/5/24*

I get what you are saying "Debdynamie". I think Ireland was at it's peak 2000 until the crash of 2007. However I would say that owning a home was as much of a pipe dream back then as it is now. They got crazy expensive.

I do sometimes worry about the "easy come easy go" with regard to wealth brought by the multinationals. There is going to be a lot of dependents still needing looking after (both foreign and domestic) and to do so with a reduced tax take would be absolutely crippling.

He did say most are dependent on state help if that is not true prove it . Why does he need to to be pitied for making a true claim . You know one person who is skilled and on a big salary .

I dare say that's only because we are only starting to feel the effects of these policies, ideologies, divisive crusading, and the rest in the last 5-10 years.

Run that poll again in a decade and I'd wager there'll be a very different response!

I'm confused ??

An family from Egypt, living here for 18 years, and they go back home on holidays. It wasnt clear to me but it seems they are depending on the Irish state for assistance, maybe Housing or welfare payments. Is that how you read it ?

Another lady, has a muslim arabic name, but it didnt say where she was from, might be Syria as the article discussed other Syrians. She has 4 kids, all born in Clones, said she was a single mum. What about the father of the kids ? Again, I am presuming she is dependent on the irish state for housing and welfare payments.

If I claim refugee status in say Australia, or Canada, will those states support me forever after I get my citizenship, or is their a cut off point to get a job and support yourself ?

It's not so much about "doing good" for most of these people (and the vocal advocates online), it's about being SEEN to be "doing good"

We live in an era of virtue signalling and attention spans that extend little past the byline in a story. What you can see in the link above is enough to tick that box for most.

There's a few pics, then it mentions some names that don't match the pics so a bit all over the place that article but says most of them are there years. Mohammed says there's no work. Nothing, Not one job, not one single opportunity in all those years. Ask me hole.

Here's an idea, commute.

Travel 1, 2, 3 hours each way like half the country does each day, while paying someone about 2 grand a month to mind your kids on top of food, bills and a mortgage on top.

It's actually sickening.

Went through Monaghan last week from clones to carrick- numerous ads along the road for crowds looking for workers. Decent enough jobs I'd say, probably nothing to rent in the county for workers.

Over half the residents in clones are now refugees - When not if corporation tax dries up we are up s#$t creek. The number of local twenty something's heading off for work abroad is off the Richter scale here, it's either that or live with mammy n daddy!

Has he checked daft.ie? Has anyone told these asylum seekers what the going rates for rent are in this country?

I suppose thats why a fair few head back to their own countries for a holiday once they've got the irish passport. Not all of them are as they say but the emotional blackmail seems strong in this post again.

Her local school would probably close to low numbers if it was just 4. The benefits of immigration.

But who is actually disagreeing with you that Europe can't take everyone ? The status quo of our laws and systems right now is that we don't take everyone. The fact that people always seem to pull out the Australian model as some exemplar of the failures of decadent border policy in Europe seem to conveniently forget that Australia has as almost as many immigrants as France despite having a significantly lower population than France — and is also an isolated (from both the rest of the first world and generally geographically) and financially / logistically difficult place to get to for migrants and certainly refugees. Simply put, it's harder for a relatively poor person to make it to Australisa.

You also seem to have a fairly rose-tinted view of how Irish emigrants got by historically. Many of them ended up in crime and gangsterism (it's called the 'Irish' mob for a reason) and certainly did not follow the rules of their host countries. They were originally seen as a dirty, stupid, workshy drunks and — as for your great solution that all it takes is for poor and wartorn countries to get their **** together — we would have been in a right worse pickle if there hadn't been an escape valve for our own humanitarian crisis and millions more would have died. It's only with the benefit of 170 odd years of hindsight that we talk about how much the Irish eventually contributed to America — and yet some on here barely give refugees a minute before writing them off as the horsemen of the Western apocalypse.

Who led you to believe this?

How many times have you heard '' they will pay our pension, if we are ill look after our medical care , remember how it was in the past before immigration '' .