Russia - threadbanned users in OP

We are a liberal democratic country and don't deport people simply for holding unsavoury views, unlike some autocratic regimes.

Ironic that many here who also hate Putins regime would be in favour of similar authoritarian steps simply because its people they don't like.

Also you did not answer my question - you accused me of strawmanning (I did not) and then responded with a strawman argument of your own! This kind of projection seems like a trend.

So ill rephrase for you: why would you see it fit to deny Russians their rights under the 1951 refugee convention but not people of another nationality? Is it racism? Where do you draw the line?

There not refugees,

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Cannot deport them for unsavory views. That's a price we pay for our open democracy and freedoms we all enjoy.

We can however, using our own freedoms, expose these people, monitor them, and use our speech to tell them exactly what we feel about Putin and his merry band of orcs. We can also stop doing business with places that has employees or employer /owners that support Z views.

There is a simple way of ‘ managing’ For example, the Russian demonstration such as by one of the following :-

(1) the Irish Gov decides what groups / type of groups / nations are outlawed because of their ‘carryon’ and any group supporting them with their activity - like flag waving, emblems on clothing / vehicles while out demonstrating are breaking the law and a possible punishment could be up to deportation

(2) there is a long list of items that we cannot discriminate against, such as gender, etc, etc, etc, etc, and I am sure that there is a similar list that individuals can object to because it upsets them and others such as noise, lights flashing all night outside your bedroom window , vile smells, cruelty to animals , etc, etc, etc. I am sure that the occurrence in Kildare upset a lot of people that these can be public ally supporting the purveyor of the war in UKr. So could some wording be used to capture this type of happening and make it illegal as it seriously upset a lot of people

Russians can still be refugees - there are more requirements than just a nation at war.

Citizens who would be persecuted in their home country can get refugee status for example, so anyone anti-Putin could qualify as they risk internment or poisoning.

We wouldn't be deporting them for holding unsavoury views, we'd be deporting them for holding an event to celebrate and promote their nation's genocidal war.

By virtue of the very fact they're celebrating Russia's actions in Ukraine, it's safe to say they're not refugees.

You still haven't answered the question though: why are you in favour of allowing them to remain (or indeed to allow any other Russians in)? Does their presence enhance our country in any way? Or should we just use Occam's Razor and deduce that you somehow benefit from their presence personally?

It's not illegal to deny asylum,

You're entitled to apply for international protect but there is legal entitlement to it ,the biggest problem is we have is the lack of any real deportations over the last 30 years

It is illegal to deny asylum when a valid claim exists.

Denying claims from an entire nationality would absolutely be illegal.

Other than 1 middle aged woman in a Z tshirt, how did the V day celebrations 'celebrate and promote their nation's genocidal war'?

I am in favour of not deporting them because I live in a liberal democratic country that affords certain freedoms to its inhabitants. This event falls squarely within all those freedoms.

We can, and most certainly do. On the personal level. But we need government and its institutions also to do their part. Not being bothered is what encourage Z-tards to go even further next time and totally disrespect country and its laws they reside in. And it should start from small things. For example - there was a black beemer with its reg plates changed to plate that says SERGEJ. Garda was there in numbers, do you think any of them even bothered to cop on. Why was the 'hero' Sergej not approached by Garda and asked to eat remove this false plate on spot?

And speaking about businesses...what do you think about this? A van of a very well known Irish landscaping company (which I can not name here) with modern day nazi flags. Does the owner knows his van is used for this? Is it owner themselves driving?

Russian machine gun position taken out

Owners might not be aware their van was participating in this farce. If they knew, then of course, but somehow I doubt owners knew what Ivan was using their equipment during weekend for. BTW, is commercial van even ensured for non-business activities?

edit: just noticed somebody has already added a quality picture with this van and flags on their Google reviews and now the 1 star ratings along with pics of ruined apartment blocks in Ukraine. All over their Facebook page too. Owners have replied ans said they are taking this very seriously and it will be dealt swiftly. Looks like Ivan will be subsidized by taxpayers soon.