Potential for €10 congestion charge, parking increases of 400% and a 20kmh reduction in speed limits

..and then wonder why the business centre of the city has been hollowed out in favour of suburban retail parks. 🙄

Another nonsensical and meaningless out of context post.

Seven cyclists died on the roads, so let's ban cars.

Twelve people died on farms so let's ban farming. Which of YOUR family members are you prepared to offer up to the inexorable death toll on our farms. STOP eating now to save our people.

The one-eyed view of cyclists does your cause great harm.

I won’t name him, but one uncle is a prick.

A quick search suggests 10 years to build and €10 billion to construct, which in real terms probably means €20 billion..

The city is accessible by the large numbers of residents who live there and who can access a Bus/Luas/Dart/Bicycle/Taxi..

It will bankrupt itself by being polluted and choked by private vehicles...

No reason why Buses can't have bus only roads extending all over the greater Dublin/Cork/Galway area...they have them in the Netherlands extending out from residential to commercial estates...

I think larger mass transit such as rail works great for high density Cities and towns which we just don't have in Ireland...

We kind of already have that in Fairview at the moment, and it's not working out well.

I've avoided the area for the last 12 months as indeed many other people have, yet buses are still slow because of an underlying design issue/choke point at Clearlys pub (road not wind enough under bridge)

Not to mention the irritation for residents. Like, wouldn't like to wake up tomorrow to discover that the Howth road is now a bus only road inbound. I don't use it ever during rush hour, but the traffic has to go somewhere and it's likely it will backup on the Raheny Rd, Tonlegee Rd, Clontarf Rd... in turn making locals life miserable.

I suppose there's a difference between delay and expectations on efficiency

This is the start swords express route, from the most populated area in Swords and the area with the most housing developments happening there.

It is not direct and it's slow, easily 1 minute per stop of people getting on. The bus is rarely held up by cars.

Stop to Stop it's around 50 mins to town via the Tunnel. This is private, revenue driven service, so I get that they try to catch as many areas as they can.

The 41c is the second option. It's a bit more direct, but it goes into the fricken airport. Journey time is easily 1 hour 20 mins to town (that is seriously slow for a more direct route). The buses are blocked by cars and vans for sure but not to the extent where they add more that 10% onto the Journey time. They're more frequently slowed down by cyclists and blocked by other buses, We've bus congestion now on many bus corridors, which is unusual.

Compare that with a similar distance on rail (The Dart from Malahide), 30 mins into town. With a train every 10 mins that can transport between 4 and 6 times the amount of passengers a Bus can (depending on how you count). It's far more environmentally friendly, more comfortable and more reliable. Like there is literally no comparison.

I do take you're point though that from time to time people are little feckers and will park in the bus lane or use it to turn left way before the left turn etc. But that's just people, and people are crap, there is no way to eliminate that. We need the Rail transport, It's nothing to do with snobbery. like 1 hour 20 mins to traverse 13km as the crow flys is not workable.

Enforcement is the biggest problem of all. Like I think there is more chance of a Metro being built than Bus Drivers being allowed to hand out fines by pressing a button. Can you imagine the legal mess it would create.... 🤮

I don't know the legal frame work around the speed vans, does a member of the Garda have to review every video of a person breaking the speed limit?

Just cant see it happening, there aren't enough Garda to review/enforce. Would the bus drivers even bother? Like their Job is to drive the bus not report people. Dublin bus are struggling to hire Bus drivers as it is. I think the Bus thing has gotten as good as it's gonna get, there is no way to make meaningful improvements at this stage.

It's still a construction site, and I've been through the area by Bus and Bicycle both aren't pleasant options, there's still a high volume of private motor vehicles travelling through there, don't know where they're going as locals in that area have the Dart, multiple bus routes plus it's close enough to walk into say the IFSC for work...and very few employers in the city provide free parking so who's driving all these cars?

Once construction is finished I'd imagine bus times will improve, and maybe by then there will be a congestion charge for crossing the canal into the city..