Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings and threadbans - updated 11/5/24*

Young me would be so utterly disgusted at current me liking a comment wanting to bring back MMcD. I want to cry now.

I don't agree with zero refugees, but I think we have accepted too many.

I suggest 1% of pop, so a max of 50,000.

All bogus AS to be deported within 1 week of arrival.

Why are they never asked this question?, is there nowhere else in the whole continent of Africa you could find safety?, why a small island on the west of Europe?

The relevance is I was replying to a comment in this thread about the person named and in relation to his actions as Attorney general and the impact on refuges fleeing here in the past.

Do you know what constitutional change I am referring to in my comment, and do you not understand the relevance?

The way things are going and are in Ireland, there'll be plenty of gangs to join in Ireland soon. Take your pick!

I really don't understand the "but the Irish emigrated" so-called argument.

So what?

Some Irish people immigrating has no bearing on what this country does or does not do with immigrants. We don't owe some kind of blood debt because of the navvies that built the British motorways, or the J1 students that party in Los Angeles. This argument somehow implies that the Irish are some kind of homogonous entity, like an ant colony, that is responsible for every action of each of its people, and has to keep track of every favour owed to pass on.

Imagine the reaction of the same people making this argument if it was argued that we shouldn't take any Muslims because some Muslims attacked the Twin Towers, or we shouldn't take any Turks because of that nasty business with the Armenians, yet these are the same premise.

It is a nonsensical figleaf used by open border fanatics to shore up the utter absurdity of their position.

See, this is the problem on this thread. Straight into the melodramatics. Blood debt? What?

Firstly, I was responding to another poster who was talking about the way Irish emigrants apparently integrated and assimilated nicely. I didn't bring the point up.

Secondly, where on earth did I say anything about Ireland owing anyone anything purely because of its own history of emigration? My post centred purely around the fact that the Irish did not historically assimilate perfectly into the fabric of American society, nor did Irish migrants abandon their own ways and customs in deference to the "native" Americans.

I fail to see any good reason for finding it invalid to draw historical examples of the Irish in America as a case study of how an emigrant community develops within a host foreign society. But for whatever reason it really seems to ruffle a few feathers on this thread.

How are England closing their doors to illegal migrants? That's absolutely impossible. And once they enter the UK, they have access to Ireland via NI.

Nothing is going to change as there is no will to change the current immigration situation. O Gorman advertised On Twitter that Ireland is a place you can come to if you need your own door accommodation so no surprise how many have arrived .

Coveney wants to double our population, McEntee likes amnesties to encourage immigrants to stay long enough and they’ll eventually be citizens.

The media are onside with this so you won’t get any dissenting voices there ,just parrot that we need to be more compassionate, remember our history etc etc

We can build all the houses we like but the likes of the Irish refugee council will look for them to be used for refugees and will take high court cases to enforce this, look at the fact that there are at last count 87 cases working their way through the courts to force the government to find accommodation.

These NGOs are using our money to bring cases to force us to provide accommodation immediately for anyone who turns up in Dublin

Here you go:

Albania, Georgia, USA = all bogus, straight away, within one minute, simple.

That's a start.

Why?

I heard Leo on the radio yesterday saying how proud he was that Ireland took 100k refugees and asylum seekers last year.

I think a couple of months ago they were spooked a bit by the anti immigration protests and put extra cops at airports checking passports.

The anti immigration protests seem to be fizzling out after a media onslaught, the government sees voters have no one else to vote for and have decided it's business as usual. What'll the present immigration control parties get realistically in the next election - 3% tops?

FF/FG/SF will do nothing to control borders. All you get is weakness. Even hearing varadkar using the word "firm" sounded weak. He followed up with a comment about how the EU should secure it's borders. Sorry. You were elected to deal with Ireland's problems now get on with it instead of passing the buck.

I have no faith in any of them. I think the Irish freedom party is probably the best option.

Dunno about any party being the solution but a protest vote would go a long way to give most of these parties the up yours to them. They might think more about their position on certain policies. Never seen such an out of touch ignorant lot.