Rory Gallagher - A dismissed case that was dealt with and brought to attention? Mod Note in OP

Why would Rory not deny pulling her down a lane in Clones and beating her puttimg her in hospital? Why not address that and clear it up.

I think we all know why.

Advised by solicitors. Exaclty. For a very specific reason. Its a pr thing. Release a long winded statement addressing nothing.

I can tell you now. If the allegations were entirely false and fabricated they would be saying exactly that. Why would they not.

I simply have my ear on the ground surrounding such local matters as anyone else can have to their own lives & localities, and what I do know is that cases of domestic & sexual abuses of & from both sexes is very difficult to get successfully prosecuted (as another poster says, rightly so as such accusations can be very detrimental to someone falsely accused) because of usually either insufficient or unreliable evidence, or a lack of willingness of the accused in wanting to take any case further at the time. As it is, I never said that I had "evidence" but those that have told me about him include former football team mates of his as well as those from Belleek (where he's originally from). I've heard too many stories over the years from otherwise whom I'd consider trustworthy people that are not used to telling little tales to dismiss it all.

As the matter involved is in the public domain now with both parties making public statements, then unless there is a legal development on it, discussing it here (or anywhere else) within the boards.ie rules or mod decisions, or laws of respective juristiction is fine and will happen wherever you or I like it or not. WRT the case involving child custody rights, these matters are almost always held in camera and so unless you were there, you (or I or anyone else not present) have no idea as to how the decision was reached, along with supporting evidence from both sides etc.

Indeed, as a supposedly anonymous poster, you appear to have a vested interest in applying a chilling effect on this discussion. Care to explain?

The issue is the real story isn't important in cases like this.

They were not dismissed. He was arrested twice. The PSNI looked to prosecute him but the prosecution service felt there wasn't enough evidence to get a conviction. That is very different to being dismissed, but you already know that.

Did anyone see the other whatsapp messages floating around that gave a counter view to the story and essentially painted her in a bad light?

It was a screenshot taken from a whatsapp group that a friend of mine happens to be on (who couldn't live further from the community). Whoever took the screenshot was careful to scribble out the name of the fella who forwarded on the messages regarding her but someone elses name and number within the group was clearly visible when it ended up on twitter.

Said fella was receiving anonymous phone calls and got text messages throughout Wednesday evening presumably from people trying to glean more info thinking he was in the know when he was an innocent by-stander.

Whatever the truth is, and its a sad story no matter the circumstances with three kids involved, that **** shows how dangerous social media can be.

Personally I think Derry GAA should ask him to step aside for the Ulster final for the sake of his team.

That gives them 2 weeks before the next match to gather as much details as they can and make a decision to either sack him or back him - if he's unable to convince the county board that he has never touched his wife (which would need to be more than just "Well, I was never prosecuted for it"), then he'd have to go.

On a file being sent to the DPP - my understanding is that every investigation ends with a file being sent to the DPP and it contains whatever evidence was gathered and the DPP makes a decision based on that. A file being sent in itself doesn't imply that there was some evidence but just not enough evidence (e.g. it could just be an uncorroborated statement) AFAIK.

"Probably outraged feminists too"

Do you have to be a feminist to be outraged by this story?

I don't think Derry GAA should ask him to stand aside.

While it doesn't look good at all, I don't think the GAA should be taking actions based on Facebook posts. It is indeed the job and specialism of the police to investigate these things.

Also it is not new information...maybe it is new in the public domain, but the relevant people will have been interviewed during their investigation.

I think the guy needs to deny and reject the individual accusations leveled at him. And my opinion is that there is a reason why he isn't or won't do that. Especially if there were witnesses to them that can then hang him essentially. It's not good for anyone and the children will suffer the most. Unfortunately this lady felt she had to go down this route. Probably felt as if she was the one being victimised and if she was abused for years that would have caused her to snap.

I'm not sure what Derry GAA do to be honest. If it were me and I was a Derry GAA supporter I wouldn't sit right with him on the line to be honest. They will have no contractual arrangements with him so legally they will be fine there. The guy was arrested twice for domestic abuse. Twice.

As dangerous as social media can be it's good that potential low life characters who get away with a conviction because of a lack of evidence can be outed.

He was arrested twice. It is common knowledge in the local area.

But look. Leave him off. He's a top bloke.

I don't think it's just the GAA wagons.

It's also some other kind of wagon that I find hard to put a word on but it's something that seems to support a certain type of person in these cases.

Remember the case where a number of Ulster rugby players were acquitted of rape?

The general theme of posts here was that they were acquitted, nothing possibly could have happened and in some cases people suggested that their accusor should be charged with flase rape claims

Then remember the case of TV and radio host Al Porter.

Porter, happens to be gay and had a very camp persona.

He was accused of molesting someone. And as soon as the news broke he stepped down from his media roles and the pile on started.

And unlike the rugby case the attitude here was very different, Porter was a guilty as can be and that was that.

In the end no one ever made a formal complaint against Porter, but people still regard him as guilty.

So what are the differces between the rugby players, Gallagher and Porter?

The rugby players and Gallagher are sportsmen, strong both physically and in personality, " macho" for the use of a better word, a "mans man", role models that can be looked up to by boys and men.

Porter on the other hand is a camp f****t. He's another annoying media head, he's not in the same league as the others.

As I said I don't know what to call it but it's a trend I've noticed on these threads over the years.

This is absolutely fair, and as long as Gallagher said nothing, he could use this angle.

However, he then issued a public statement of his own in which he completely failed to deny a single one of the allegations. That was absolutely bananas, it's just pouring petrol on the fire.

it's also the village he is originally from.

Agreed ET…..spot on.

He doesn't need to deny the allegations.

That's exactly my point though. He didn't need (past tense) to deny them. He should have said nothing.

But once he decided to say something, then he had to be very clear that the allegations were not true.

Coming out with a statement that said a lot of things but didn't refute the allegations was lunacy.

Seek help.

It doesn’t sit comfortably with me that this appears to have been an “open secret” for so long and nobody did anything but it’s not surprising. “Not my business, I’m not getting involved” spring to mind especially when the person stays in the relationship. Belleek are supporting her now as she has took the decision to publicly confirm what they all knew.

The online post reads like someone who has nothing left to lose. It most certainly was well written and didn’t read like a drunk having a rant