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Initially I was skeptical, but OSINT have been comparing this stuff, and the "core" warhead plus other sections (e.g. the fin) are really starting to look like they came from a Kinzhal. The flipside is, no one can identify what it alternatively is, except for similarities to a dumb munition, which would have been odd since it was recovered in Kyiv. Also, the Pentagon have confirmed it - if it's easily disprovable then that's egg on their face.

The KH-47M2 is still a ballistic missile, and reportedly part of it's flight occurs at Mach 2 or 3, which puts it into the scope of an anti-ballistic system like the Patriot.

Not 100%, but leaning towards Kinzhal for the moment.

You seem to have a very hard time admitting when wrong.

That was your claim starting all of this. This has proven to be completely false so you are wrong. It does not matter how much you want to twist and spin, you are still wrong.

What a cluster **** as the yanks would say. The Russians spend months making minimal gains in Bakhmut, then in the space of a day or so the Ukranians make 3 kms. I think the head of Wagner knows his outfit is being set up to be the fall guy for Bakhmut. I think some in the Russian MOD now want Ukraine to win in Bakhmut to weaken Prigozhin for good. Vladimir himself might want this too. I also believe that things are going to reach a tipping point in Russia by the end of the summer. It maybe that those close to Vlad will try to oust him by that stage.

The Russians must have an actual fetish about sustaining heavy losses for minimal gains, like it's a badge of honour, like abject suffering is the only real way to live and get things done. Well, they've been getting their wish in this war. Their army has only moved forward in one spot since the end of last Summer, and those gains have been metres per day over eight months. It's pathetic. You know it would wound Putin deeply if Ukrainian forces were able to reverse those hard-fought gains in Bakhmut within a short amount of time. A stinging psychological blow.

Really interesting news of a Friday evening. A direct hit on target outside of himars range with the help of a long range decoy.

I agree the blueprint scales must be off, but the engine and fuel are in the normal places, with the warhead at the front, looks easily small enough to fit in the front section outer shell, not sure I get this point?

Also let's say this is a piece of propaganda by Ukraine, why wouldn't they just fabricate a Kinzhal nose cone? Why would they go to the effort of creating something that doesn't look like the outer part of the missile?

There's a third possibility that it's an Iskander warhead, and so is the one found in Sept last year, but having seen some limited pics of Iskander warheads, they don't appear to match up.

Again your wrong ,

And yet the basic knowledge of what actually happens when a patriot missle intercepts another missle it non existent,

People are taking what they read on Twitter and not having an concept of what actually being claimed

In the original photo without Klitschko it shows numerous bombs and missles recovered,it could be a simple case of someone putting parts together and getting something that looks similar

I mean claims that this is edited are not in a word, wrong.

And showed up online within the last day, only after the reported strike. Completely different size cross hatch (this did not originate from the same scale technical drawing) and it's just slapped over some kind of frustum-shaped subassembly (circled in red) and there appears to have been some whitespace around the object they pasted in, you can see it excludes some line art on the frustum on both sides.

Though the size of ~1.5 meters is basically right based on the lad standing with the object. Here you can see Hitler's doppleganger work on a W80 intermediate yield US nuclear warhead, roughly the same size or smaller, and capable of a 5 to 150 kt yield (the Kinzhal being said to be capable of holding a 5 to 50kt warhead).

Of course for what little the armchairs know, it could still be accurate information poorly illustrated, and depending on how the missile disintegrated on interception could have survived where the outer casing did not.

Indeed. My question is - if this is a warhead from something else, then what is that something else? It should be recognizable as much of the Russian arsenal isn't a secret (unlike the Kinzhal)

So far no one has positively ID'd it except for internet armchairs who've gone through Russian munitions photos and found a dumb munition that "looks the same shape" as it.

In simple terms,

Take one missles traveling at Mach 4 (4× the speed of sound)

And another missle traveling at Mach 4 + and Intercept each other,

Explain how you end up with intact missle been recovered,

Have you provided any evidence to show pac 3 patriot missles in Ukraine,

No, yet I posted the video and images showing pac 2 patriot missles in Ukraine

Incendiaries again??

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He's completely lost the plot.

Maybe Putin has left him there to die.

Perno Ricard to stop operations in Russia

Took them long enough but in reality they weren't breaching sanctions, despite the numerous claims made that they were,