Tesla Talk

Halo product with bucket loads of problems, I know tesla share holders which I'm assuming you are tbh are absolutely astounding at continually pumping the brand in any situation they possibly find themselves but to say the model x is a daddy is nonsense. It's a six figure vehicle with multitudes of issues and dropped the absolute arse out of its price here and in the US near unfixable outside of specialist independents. Bizarre for what is essential a people carrier with motors on it .

If this was a BMW at that value with the same problems you'd be blowing the shite out of it and rightly so BTW.

The S is really the halo car and since the facelift model from 2016 it has been very reliable with no known expensive issues. I'm no fan of the X, I agree with you there are many lemons out there.

I do own a Tesla and I own Tesla shares for full disclosure. But I am certainly not a fanboi of the organisation that is Tesla, see my comments in the last few posts alone. In fact I'm currently taking Tesla to court and it is not the first time, although I probably shouldn't be posting this. Neither time did it have anything to do with problems with a car I have or had.

If the price was right, if I could import a M3 from France or Germany for €10,000 I'd certainly consider it, a car for half the price of my house though, nah!

The semi won’t be a volume seller in any way - the US market is literally 5 times the 2nd place China for ‘heavy duty truck sales’, and it varies from 95-190k sales pa, for $150-175k average price.

the worldwide market for semi’s is about 1.5-1.9m. The other volume manufacturers already have an electric offering if you want one.

Now imagine an electric $250k truck. The addressable market is far smaller than you’d think. Most American trucks are decades old - they’re not going EV any time soon.

the Pepsi deal is interesting, but they’re only towing Cheetos crisps trailers at the moment, and not tonnes of drinks.

FSD had promise, of course it does - but there’s clearly been a fork in the road in respect of the tech, cameras versus lidar. The issue is that theyre trying to apply logic to chaos theory - billions of possible outcomes for every situation

What’s the price difference between. S and a Taycan?

Just looked it up for you there. Taycan from €102k, Model S from €120k

That makes the Taycan look cheap. But the Porsche has very poor performance, range and spec compared to the Tesla. If you aim to compare similarly specced and performing cars, the Tesla is far cheaper. Personally, if I had €100k to spend on a car, I would buy a base Taycan with zero options and be done with it. I wouldn't even try stretch my budget to buy a Model S or buy a faster or better specced Taycan.

Am I mad to consider this?

I've driven LHD cars here before, bigger. than the X plaid. Theres no real issue, I have a toll tag and rarely go through tolls anyway.

I think this is the bargaining phase of anger denial bargaining and acceptance but I woke up this morning with that idea in my head. I was considering a taycan but when I can have an (albeit LHD) plaid X for similar money to a mid spec taycan it doesnt make sense. If I don't buy an X plaid the leading competitor in my mind isnt even electric

Give it another few weeks and mull it over.

You will loose money when you sell it.

that's quite a change from your previous post :) I think on the continent the same cars are cheaper as new, so prospects of cutting loses there are quite slim. I'd wait some as is not unheard of Tesla changing their mind especially after some backlash. Who knows could be some publicity stunt.

There are alit of very upset folks atm , which is understandable. Just don't do anything as a knee jerk reaction as it is possible this will blow over and they will change again.

I was thinking of an S too but hadn't a deposit down so not really impacted at all.

It probably is that alright, imagine you got a 160k car for 100k.

Something similar will be done for the CT reservation holders who locked in a low price 2 yes ago too.

I think one part of the equation is the UK leaving the single market so Tesla would have to get this approved on multiple small RHD markets in Europe alone. I would not be surpised if this happened more and more with new car models being launched.

In general it's not a good place to be in a very small market of EU RHD of Ireland and Malta. The same thing is already happening with Model Y, i.e. we are not getting the Berlin built cars here unlike the rest of the EU.

Time to go full full Swedish and swaps sides.

What I would give to be able to privately import vehicles again, except having the whole EU to choose from instead of the UK.

Or let the rest of the EU go full Swedish and let them swap sides, we were driving on the left long before they were LHT after all

Just to add Cyprus to that list with Ireland and Malta... Small change in population numbers admittedly