Advertisement
If you have a new account but are having problems posting or verifying your account, please email us on hello@boards.ie for help. Thanks :)
Hello all! Please ensure that you are posting a new thread or question in the appropriate forum. The Feedback forum is overwhelmed with questions that are having to be moved elsewhere. If you need help to verify your account contact hello@boards.ie
Hi there,
There is an issue with role permissions that is being worked on at the moment.
If you are having trouble with access or permissions on regional forums please post here to get access: https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058365403/you-do-not-have-permission-for-that#latest

Irish Cricket 2023

17810121323

Comments

  • Registered Users Posts: 1,251 ✭✭✭VillaMad


    1 wicket brings 2. In danger of losing now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,959 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Lost 3 for 11 in 18 balls, wow.

    just so adept at getting into pole position to win and just not having the composure/decision making to get it done. We might still but we need to stop finding fielders with good shots bringing dot balls and need to stop loosing wickets.

    3 off that over, last single a missfield.



  • Registered Users Posts: 277 ✭✭Guildenstern


    4 wickets left. Should be enough. I'd still have us as favourites.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,251 ✭✭✭VillaMad


    That's exactly it. The fielder at point I imagine has been changed with sore hands because the ball has gone to him so many times today. This team find it so hard to get over the line.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,392 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    Imploding, too cautious at one stage and let the run rate rise that bit. Rate we'd do handily enough but not under pressure.



  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users Posts: 1,251 ✭✭✭VillaMad


    Game pretty much done now. No boundary for 7 overs at the key point in the game.

    Tector should have been milking it for one and twos and they would have comfortably got home.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,959 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    We needed 50 from 50 with 5 or 6 wickets remaining, to now requiring 24 from 12 balls

    don’t like this Bangladesh team, been up to all sorts of gamesmanship this series…. Trainers forever running on and off the field without reason.

    we need to hit boundaries but this pair haven’t been told…. Actually Adair with a 4, need more.



  • Registered Users Posts: 277 ✭✭Guildenstern


    We're now Favs again!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,959 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Why ? The fûck is that shot about ? Exactly proof of my point above about composure and decision making.

    even O’Brien on commentary is raging.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,861 ✭✭✭Mysterypunter


    Whatever the result they would want to cut out the fancy flick across the line to a dead straight ball, Tucker and Adair out to needless slogs



  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,861 ✭✭✭Mysterypunter


    If you think they are bad, take a look at Afghanistan, fairytale my arse, nothing new to be honest, Ireland lose by 4, ridiculous



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,392 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    Oh dear, what learnings will we take this time?



  • Registered Users Posts: 730 ✭✭✭wicorthered


    Serious lack of bottle in this team. They've completely thrown away two wins. That was almost unlosable at 223/3 yet they've lost fairly meekly in the end.

    Even if they had the talent they don't have the mentality side if it. Their rare wins are always straight forward wins, they lose every tight game. That's not luck that's a lack of bottle. Chokers...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,959 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Ireland choke again basically….Balbernie is raging…just shaking his head….decision making and composure again our downfall with the management of the game in the middle…

    That last delivery is a wide if Young can get his feet out of the way



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,952 ✭✭✭kksaints


    It's happening far too often that they lose tight matches. I'm sick of either the bowling failing to defend a good total like on Friday or the batters failing to reach a modest total after a good bowling performance. It's happening far too often.



  • Registered Users Posts: 730 ✭✭✭wicorthered


    No they did all the hard work, put themselves in a winning position. Then crapped themselves. Rabbits in headlights under any pressure. Batting, bowling and fielding all fall apart under pressure



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,392 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    Yeah, but we can see that whilst we have a decent batting lineup, it's starts struggling when they need to score more than a run a ball. We can canter along sometimes batting first but put us batting second recently and the heads go awry. Stirling & Balbirnie needed to build a stand alright but also to have driven down the asking rate a bit. Stirling needed to be hitting a few more fours, don't think running hard is really his thing.



  • Registered Users Posts: 277 ✭✭Guildenstern


    We're just not there yet. Competitive against lesser sides, or even the big nations if they drop a big player or 3. The killer instinct, putting the game to bed mentality.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,959 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Doheny is a big worry at the top of the order, a young guy but he isn’t performing in T20 or 50 over cricket. I remember that very good 84 he made against Zimbabwe but he’s come nowhere near following it up, he’s only made that single half century in his 12 limited overs appearances …. Averages in the 20’s with one score of 50 or over….. but true to Irelands selection policies I’m sure he’s about 8 - 10 more matches of scoring not many runs before he’s jettisoned.

    our last 6 wickets just contributed 32 runs…



  • Registered Users Posts: 209 ✭✭Lionel Fusco


    Talk about snatching defeat from the Jaws of victory



  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users Posts: 730 ✭✭✭wicorthered


    The rate was less than 6 when Tector got out. That should be a doddle. They panicked when he went. The thought of winning was too much. It happens all the time, they haven't the winning mentality.

    I genuinely think they should start playing regularly against the associates again. Winning is a habit no matter who you beat.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,251 ✭✭✭VillaMad


    Away from the national side, the Inter Pro resumes today with 6 matches over the next 10 days between Leinster, Munster, North West and Northern Knights.

    Places in the senior side are definitely up for grabs with just a month to go until the Cricket World Cup Qualifier in Zimbabwe.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,338 ✭✭✭Gillespy


    England squad for the Ireland game announced. Full strength I would say with Bairstow now back from injury. Wood and Woakes in it too. There is some concerns over Anderson but he’s named.

    https://www.ecb.co.uk/news/3356232



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,251 ✭✭✭VillaMad


    So finally the groups and fixtures for the World Cup qualifier next month in Zimbabwe have been released.

    Group A

    West Indies

    Zimbabwe

    Netherlands

    Nepal

    USA

    Group B

    Sri Lanka

    Ireland

    Scotland

    Oman

    UAE

    Top 3 qualify in each group for the super six stage with points carried over. They play 3 more matches in the super six stage against teams from the opposite group and the top two qualify for the World Cup and then play in a final.

    Fixtures: (All matches start at 8am Irish time)

    Monday, 19 June

    Ireland v Oman, Bulawayo Athletic Club

    Wednesday, 21 June

    Ireland v Scotland, Queen’s Sports Club

    Sunday, 25 June

    Sri Lanka v Ireland, Queen’s Sports Club

    Tuesday, 27 June

    Ireland v UAE, Bulawayo Athletic Club

    Warm-up fixtures:

    Tuesday, 13 June

    Ireland v USA, Bulawayo Athletic Club

    Thursday, 15 June

    Ireland v Netherlands, Queen’s Sports Club



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,251 ✭✭✭VillaMad


    Ireland squad for the World Cup Qualifiers has been named:

    Ireland: Andrew Balbirnie (c), Mark Adair, Curtis Campher, Gareth Delany, George Dockrell, Graham Hume, Josh Little, Andy McBrine, Barry McCarthy, PJ Moor, Paul Stirling, Harry Tector, Lorcan Tucker, Ben White, Craig Young.

    So from the ODI squad against Bangladesh, Stephen Doheny loses his place after a run of poor scores and is replaced by PJ Moor. Barry McCarthy replaces Fionn Hand and Ben White gets added as a reserve spin option.

    The Inter-pro competition has been going full steam in the past week and this selection has it's problems. PJ Moor has been batting at 5 for Munster Reds and going by the squad seems likely to open. He didn't impress in the test team in Sri Lanka, but did see Munster over the line last week with a 69 not out. Murray Commins hit a century on Monday opening, and would surely have been a better fit. Perhaps they see Balbirnie jumping up to open with Stirling, but it's a problem that they still haven't solved.

    Big issues as well with the World Cup Qualifier. Netherlands you may remember got trashed by England last year in an ODI series because they couldn't release players from their English counties and the same thing has happened again for them with up to 6 county players unavailable to leave.

    Scotland who are in our group are without Michael Jones, Brad Wheal and Josh Davey for the same reasons as the Dutch. Not on in 2023.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,959 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Doheny had to be dropped…..Fionn Hand while remembered for the brilliant delivery that got Ben Stokes in the T20 World Cup….. hasn’t done much else in an Ireland shirt.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,251 ✭✭✭VillaMad


    So the Tour match against Essex has started today.

    A reminder of the squad:

    Andrew Balbirnie (Capt), Mark Adair, Curtis Campher, George Dockrell, Matthew Foster, Fionn Hand, Graham Hume, Tom Mayes, Andrew McBrine, James McCollum, PJ Moor, Paul Stirling, Harry Tector, Lorcan Tucker, Craig Young.

    Matthew Foster replaced Conor Olphert who had to withdraw due to injury.

    So Ireland are bowling and Essex are 100-3 at lunch. Campher, Dockrell, Adair and Foster are all in the Essex side, so it's a bit of a strange one. Ireland's bowling attack has been a bit limited but ok. Mayes has looked decent.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,959 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Ireland are 220/5 after 52 in reply to Essex’s 343 all out……this is a seriously excellent partnership, Ireland we’re floundering and in a shîtload of trouble at 65/5 but have turned it around sensationally …



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,959 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Tucker falls 3 short of his century with Dockrell taking the wicket which in itself is weird. 97 from 102… deserved a century. McBrine 44* from 44 including a heap of boundaries

    303/6…. hopefully we keep plugging away and chase down the Essex score….40 runs behind, 4 wickets remaining.

    419 all out, entertaining by the Irish batsmen. Combated a good attack and some iffy umpiring…. One of our batmen given out initially lbw that jagged back about 8 inches off the bat onto the pad, poor. A good number of overs left, weather set good so an outside chance of a result.

    Post edited by Strumms on


  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,595 ✭✭✭✭KevIRL


    A ten wicket win for Ireland. Some going. Both openers unbeaten with a ton for each in the second innings to get to 232/0 and secure the win. Hopefully the preparation will stand to them ahead of the test in Lords later next week.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,338 ✭✭✭Gillespy


    Impressive partnership but then you remember half the bowlers were our own. Too bad it wasn’t a full strength Essex. Against Cook, Porter and Harmer would have been a different story and much better preparation for Thursday.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,338 ✭✭✭Gillespy


    England Team v Ireland

    Ben Duckett, Zak Crawley, Ollie Pope, Joe Root, Harry Brook, Ben Stokes (c), Jonny Bairstow, Stuart Broad, Matthew Potts, Josh Tongue (Debut), Jack Leach.

    Bowling looks weak. All fine bowlers but a lot easier looking than if Anderson, Robinson, Woakes and Wood were playing



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Abroad Moderators Posts: 2,659 Mod ✭✭✭✭TrueDub


    I had a mad urge to go to the game in Lord's on Thursday. €200 for in-and-out flights on Thurs, £70 for a ticket. Add in transport, food, drinks etc you won't see any change from €350 or so.

    Still wildly tempted, as there is NOWHERE like Lord's for watching cricket. But don't think I can justify the funds, not to mention the exhaustion the next day.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,821 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous




  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Abroad Moderators Posts: 2,659 Mod ✭✭✭✭TrueDub




  • Advertisement
  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,821 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    Hehe, go on, live a little :pac:


    I'll be there myself actually, quite looking forward to it. And when Ireland play you're always looking at seeing a few records broken (touch wood)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,959 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Weather is forecasted to be dry for the whole test. That’s the good news, we should have no interruptions.

    quite breezy, overcast so with it being Lords, we shall see much swing most likely, gonna be humid too.

    that slope and swinging conditions have done for many a batsman not experienced at Lords…

    Looking forward to it. Hopefully we hold our own.

    those going , jealous as hell, but, enjoy.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,251 ✭✭✭VillaMad


    Ireland side tomorrow is likely to be:

    1 James McCollum, 2 PJ Moor, 3 Andy Balbirnie (capt), 4 Harry Tector, 5 Paul Stirling, 6 Lorcan Tucker (wk), 7 Curtis Campher, 8 Andy McBrine, 9 Mark Adair, 10 Graham Hume, 11 Craig Young.

    In all honesty, it's going to be difficult for Ireland to make this game competitive. I think their only hope is that England's all-aggressive Bazball style of cricket, throws away some wickets and keeps Ireland in the game. Our bowling hasn't looked good though when the opposition has been all-out-attack and you do fear a hammering.

    On the batting side, that middle will be key for us to get a respectable score. Tector, Stirling and Tucker have been in very good form over the past international year and hopefully the top 3 can last long enough to make batting a bit easier when they get in.

    Still great for this Irish team to play another test match at Lords. We never know when they will play test cricket again as it all seems very haphazard on the scheduling side of things.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,392 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    We need more from our openers as well, at least soak up time and balls. Let Eng away at the Bazball, we need to play a more conservative game I think. Anyway good luck to them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,338 ✭✭✭Gillespy


    England won the toss and are bowling. Not ideal given the overcast conditions.



  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users Posts: 730 ✭✭✭wicorthered


    Fionn Hand must have some serious dirt on the selectors, even with a low talent base he is nowhere near the standard required. Young and Mayes are both much better bowlers. There's probably 6/7 that should be ahead of him. This is not a pick based on any cricketing performance. I've never seen a more scattered bunch of selectors!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,959 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    15/1 after 5. Moor gone lbw played all around a very full and straight delivery that didn’t swing did nothing off the pitch. Should have either blocked it or played it with a straight bat down the pitch…

    not a good shot at all.

    19/2… Balbernie goes for a duck… again bad batting more than good bowling…. Broad full and straight just outside off. Balbernie hangs the bat, offers his edge and Broad obliges. Two down ok, but absolutely two terrible shots… a number 11 would get the ‘look’ going up the stairs having played either.

    19/3 😵‍💫 Tector with another disaster of an effort… 🙄. Rank shot… has to have know a fielder is there..they must have stopped off at the Devon Malcolm school of batting.



  • Registered Users Posts: 209 ✭✭Lionel Fusco


    Tector should be fired into the sun for that 3 absolutely pathetic wickets thrown away



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,338 ✭✭✭Gillespy


    Broad on one of his usual rampages. After a steady start, it has quickly fallen apart. Review saving Sterling lbw first ball.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,392 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    Ah Jaysus lads, are we not allowed a glimmer of hope?

    Just as well TrueDub above going today!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 171 ✭✭GolfPar


    Always looked like it was going down leg albeit close.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,959 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    McCollum 12* from 53…. Looking nervy

    god the replays of the 3 wickets won’t exactly be saving the blushes of our batsmen… look worse again. 3 god awful shots.



  • Registered Users Posts: 209 ✭✭Lionel Fusco


    McCollum at least seems determined not to just throw away his wicket nice boundary in the last over as well.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,959 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Tongue is fast, bowing in the ‘90’s.

    Sterling gone… had been looking good but a seriously questionable shot.

    Post edited by Strumms on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,392 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    The coach needs to have a word in their ears and remind them it's a 4 day match :)

    Starting to look a bit thin in the rest of the batting, Campher can hang around and maybe McBrine. Curtains after that.



  • Advertisement
This discussion has been closed.
Advertisement