Biss question

893bet · 15-05-2023 11:09pm #1

What does “ref area ha” actually represent?

for the below parcel the “ref area ha” was was 3.32 same as the claimed area ha. I seemed to have a spare 0.1 entitlement and there seems to be extra eligibility there so I chnaged that up to 3.42.

below look ok? Don’t want to end up holding up payments of something so small but equally hate losing 0.1 for nothing.

Castlekeeper · 16-05-2023 6:35am

Imho it means that, fadó fadó, the ref area original estimation of that plot size was 3.32, which is what the entitlements were based in. This has since been reviewed and increased to 3.59, but you are still only claiming 3.32, but are now choosing to increase to 3.42.

That's just my understanding, I'm no expert.

nhg · 16-05-2023 7:05am

When we submitted our application at the Dept of Ag clinic the Dept guy changed everything to match up to Eligible Ha, as he said you now get payment for every bit of ground, we now have more Eligible Ha than entitlements but entitlements are only for BISS now. Think it’s more to do with CRISS and Eco etc

893bet · 16-05-2023 8:21am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120602119#Comment_120602119

That makes sense and is pretty obvious. I had been wondering why my ECO had been equal to my BISS when I understood you could claim ECO on scrub.

893bet · 16-05-2023 8:24am

I have a small bit of ash forest self planted 20 years. No forest payments receipted on it or BPS.

Not on my maps ever. Can I add that now for payment under ECO? Or is ECO not payable on forest?

Siamsa Sessions · 16-05-2023 9:30am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120602247#Comment_120602247

We have forestry (alder) included on the application but it's classified as 'pre-2015 forestry' and is not included for ECO or CRISS. I think you could plant ground after 2015 and still activate entitlements on it but I don't think you can get ECO or CRISS on it.

893bet · 16-05-2023 9:37am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120602471#Comment_120602471

Did you draw forestry premiums on it?

Siamsa Sessions · 16-05-2023 9:43am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120602487#Comment_120602487

Yes. Drawing them on it since it was planted in 2008.

893bet · 16-05-2023 9:53am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120602511#Comment_120602511

We drew no premium on this parcel. It’s less and acre and was self planted scrub. Filled with Ash that’s dying slowly and briars 😟.

might be worth a call to then to check.

Siamsa Sessions · 16-05-2023 10:08am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120602547#Comment_120602547

If it's not officially forestry and was never included in BPS, then it'd definitely worth a call to the Dept. If you don't get a straight answer (or get an answer you don't like!), you could always just include it and let them tell you later if it's not eligible.

Castlekeeper · 16-05-2023 11:15am

I've a question myself. I've scrub excluded from plots, and it's marked as 100% reduced.

Where does the 50% rule come in?

As in can if there was 2 ha of scrub excluded at a 100% reduction. Can I now buy an entitlement and claim on 50% ie 1 ha of that area?

k mac · 16-05-2023 11:29am

Can you check on agfood to see if your BISS application was submitted

tanko · 16-05-2023 11:39am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120603002#Comment_120603002

You can , go into BISS then view correspondence then view application, your application should be there.

red bull · 19-05-2023 8:34pm

Has anyone in a farm partnership had problems with no data available on there application

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