"Green" policies are destroying this country

I see John gibbons was on Eamon dunphys the stand attempting to scare the bejaysus out of anyone listening.

He goes on about the Gulf Stream shutting off due to desalination (day after tomorrow anyone?). There was a poster on here who gave a good account of why the Gulf Stream shutting off and us going into a new ice age (because of our northerly lattitude- similar to northern Canada), was a bunch of baloney but I can’t find that post.

Anyway link to the gibbons scarecast:

ULEZ is a fantastic success and will be an even bigger success when extended throughout london.

of course there will be a small number for who it will be a problem but the reality is that london has to clean up it's air massively at any and all costs.

it's a smog filled hole at the moment and it cannot go on.

there is a reason why the burning of coal among other examples happened in cities like london as far back as the 60s and 70s.

our environmental policies will be a huge success also, that's not to say there won't be some pain.

but the reality is there was always going to be pain and it's better to rip the plaster off now annd have less pain, then hold out, continue doing the same thing we are and having a hell of a lot more, and more expensive pain down the line.

Difference is the NCT costs €55 every 2 years for the most part (yearly after 10 years) whereas a move to force upgrades of houses prior to selling will be many thousands of €. I don't see why the onus should be on the seller to upgrade a house and not the buyer.

To expats all the Irish government's Greenie virtue-signalling is really just another sign of the Irish state's complete dysfunctionality. They want housing not cycle lanes.

Just going by the text in Furzes' post then the aim is to prevent people from selling if they don't retrofit first. Minimum standards are grand, but if you are selling something then you aren't really concerned with it. And as alays, it's better for the buyer to do the upgrade. If I was a seller I'd do the least amount possible, cut every corner I could and then sell for a higher price. Which leaves the buyer having to fix any of my shoddy work, plus it may not even be at a BER level the buyer wants. Then it makes more sense for the seller to sell, and the buyer do what they like after that.

This seems to be the driver. Not sure why the Irish greens seem so he'll bent on destroying anything old and replacing it with some that won't last a 10th of the time.

I have an old house (as in 150 year old plus) extended and we slowly tipped away and it's not the warmest in winter but I'm not freezing. Fantastic having cool rooms in summer with 3 foot thick stone walls.

I'm guessing it's a G rating so won't be able to sell when I need to downsize.

It'd be unbelievable if this comes to pass. But it shows the danger of zealots and ideologues and in this case those in the current Green movement.

There's usually a fair amount of leeway at national level when it comes to implementing EU directives. Most people don't know what is actual directive and what is a bonus country-specific layer of rules.

It's hardly driven by Big Oil. Where do you think it's coming from?

Yeah, I already knew about that directive. And you don't think it's drive by Green ideology?? It's going to affect 30 million residential buildings in the EU in the next ten years. The €150 bn of public funds being set aside won't go very far, if you do the sums. You don't think this is crazy? (Rhetorical question -- I know your craziness bar is set higher than most).

I believe that was the report being discussed on Morning Ireland this very morning and there was a lady presenting the case, possibly Beverley here above. She said clearly that there was EU legislation being developed that would require a mandatory min BER rating of E by 2030 on all residential property being sold/ purchased or rented. That this would rise to a D rating by 2033 and that fossil fuels would be banned from sale in 2035. That's what I heard.