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Recent upgrade to telecom pole but what is it?

  • 30-04-2023 9:32am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 396 ✭✭


    Hey,


    been using mobile broadband for years as its my only option to have more than 10Mb dl and a few weeks ago i noticed that they seems to be a upgrade to the telephone pole that my neighbor is connected to. I connect to another pole but this pole is actually closer to my house than the pole i connect to and this pole is also closer to my house than my neighbors house.


    Any one have any idea what it is? Is it fiber as all sites(eir, vodafone etc..) still say fiber is not available at my address and the mac i can get is 28Mb. I asked the neighbor and he doesnt have a clue he is in his 70's so just uses it for basic browsing.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 396 ✭✭grimeire


    I just checked with my neighbors eircode and they can get up to 2000Mb.


    How is this possible???




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,756 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    It's a fibre distribution box.

    Who installed it, open-eir or NBI?

    What does the NBI and open-eir websites say for your eircode?

    https://nbi.ie/map/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 396 ✭✭grimeire


    @The Cush

    Thanks that's what I thought.


    On the NBI site it says


    "Your premises is not included in the national rollout


    Internet service providers have indicated that they intend to offer speeds of 30mbps or greater in your locality.


    If you believe your premises should be included in the national rollout you can find out more in our FAQs at the link below."


    And

    "Your nearest Broadband Connection Point is 8.00 km


    There is a fiber cabinet less than 100m from my house that services the housing estate across the road. A member on here told me I was connected to one a couple KM away.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,756 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    It's an open-eir distribution point so, how recent was it installed?

    What does the open-eir map checker indicate for your eircode?

    If you can get onto them to get your eircode linked to that distribution point.

    How far from your house is the pole that carries the DP?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 396 ✭✭grimeire


    Not sure when it was installed but just noticed it a few weeks ago so I assume some time this year.

    Do I just contact open eir via email to get them to change the dp I am connected to?

    when you say DP i assume you mean the pole i provided the picture of. Im less than 10m from it but there is 2 sets of trees inbetween my place and that pole.

    Im in the light blue area on open eir so up to 100Mb.


    Here a screenshot providing a bit more context of the pole and where me and my neighbor are.



    Post edited by grimeire on


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,938 ✭✭✭zg3409


    There can be a delay between equipment installed and websites being updated. There can also be a delay between equipment on site and actual launch of the service. Does your phone line go to this pole or another pole?


    You could try ringing them and convincing them that the equipment is installed. Or give the neighbours eircode and explain you are right beside.

    It can be a problem to get through to the right department and to get them to understand but well worth a try.

    If you are good friends with neighbours they might upgrade and you could run a cable or wifi or fibre optic from their house. You could even pay for their service if you are desperate.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 332 ✭✭trant


    If your neighbour's Eircode shows as included in the NBI rollout, you may have been excluded from the NBP inadvertently. If this is the case, you'll need to contact DCCAE to have your address reviewed for inclusion:

    https://secure.dccae.gov.ie/forms/NBP-Customer-Service.aspx

    From experience, this took about a year of back and forth between NBI, my County Council Broadband Officer and our local TD. Once we were added, there was a wait of another few months before our property was actually updated on the map and ready for install.

    Worth it in the end, but not a trivial undertaking.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,195 ✭✭✭heavydawson


    Vodafone don't offer 2gbps connections via NBI (only 500/1000), so it's more likely OpenEir or Siro. Not sure if Siro use DPs like the one above, so more likely to be OpenEir. I'll bet your neighbours Eircode says it's not in the intervention area on the NBI site.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,316 ✭✭✭monseiur


    It seems that the info on the NBI website is way out of date. I entered my Eircode and it says that nearest broad band connection point is 14.37 km away - In fact I have fibre optic high speed broadband for over two years and the connection is on a pole less that 40 metres from my house !!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,756 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    Broadband connection points, BCPs, are public WiFi points in community centres, libraries etc. provided under the national broadband planas an interim broadband solution for rural areas. Once the nbp is fully rolled out they will be discontinued.

    The box on pole is a fibre distribution point.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 396 ✭✭grimeire


    Correct i just checked an it says "Your premises is not included in the national rollout" for my neighbor on NBI.


    Is it really this awkward. I would of thought if a fella came to install the internet he would just go with the closest point which is the DP on the pole 10m from my house.


    Having to jump through hopes so I can have decent internet to work from home in this day and age is insane.


    is it worth getting on to comreg here are they still as useless as they were in the past for me?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,773 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    After seeing this thread I noticed those boxes on poles down the country at the weekend.

    I was told that the crew mounting the boxes are just doing that job and apparently another crew will actually connect them to fibre.

    Could be all wrong but that's what I was told.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 332 ✭✭trant


    If neither your neighbour or your own property are included in the NBP, this line of inquiry is not going to get you anywhere.

    As @heavydawson mentioned it's probably OpenEir or SIRO.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 396 ✭✭grimeire


    It asks if the house was built in the last 24 months. Is there a reason for this. Will they prioritize new builds?


    My place was recently majorly renovated and extended now goes into the green area on open Eir. The place is nothing like it was before and no one would think it was a referb they would think it was new since literally everything was done. Am i better off saying it a new build?


    Yes we both own.


    is Comreg of any use here?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 396 ✭✭grimeire


    I find it hard to belive that they have one crew mounting boxes and another connecting to fiber. Seems a bit mad to me but have seen stupider things.


    In my case the DP seems to have cables running to it so I assume it is already fiber enabled



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 332 ✭✭trant


    New builds refer to properties without Eircodes, or those that have just been created. They are not prioritised but are included after the rest of the area goes live.

    My comment regarding the NBP was that if neither your property or your neighbours are included, it means your area is not included to begin with. There is no point chasing NBI.

    Contact your local County Council broadband officer, I don't think ComReg will do any good as OpenEir are only obliged to provide a working phone line (or suitable alternative) to every home in Ireland. There is no USO for fiber (yet).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,773 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    Like I said my informants could have the wrong end of the stick.

    Maybe it could be that putting up the boxes is a fairly simple low tech task that can be done by anyone with a short training course.

    Whereas the actual connection of the fibre requires a bit more technical knowledge.

    Anyhow maybe someone else will come along to clarify.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,756 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    As this is an open-eir rollout and there is no fibre USO there is little point contacting Comreg, it'll be a commercial decision for them to connect you. As posted previously by zg3409, your best bet is to contact eir/open-eir, tell them your situation, proximity to the DP etc. They may send someone out to see the situation on the ground.

    I recall someone posting here previously that got a similar connection with a bit of persistence.

    Are there any fibre connections within the overall blue 100 mbps area? Maybe this is part of their urban rollout plan?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,756 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    As your neighbour's premises is available to order the DP is live.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 396 ✭✭grimeire


    what do you mean is there "fibre connections within the overall blue 100 mbps area?"



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 396 ✭✭grimeire


    Is it not possible that i can just pay openeir or another third party to connect me?


    Its in there best interest here. Ill be paying them like €65 a month going forward.


    Also i dont understand how vodafone can offer up to 2000Mb while all other providers for my neighbor are only offering 1000Mb.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,756 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    If you look at the open-eir map there are premises in the FTTC blue areas around the country (up to 100 Mbps) where they have connected premises to FTTH (green areas), because it was convenient for them to do with a fibre line nearby.

    This is what they have done in my local village, premises in the blue area, up to 100 Mbps but with a fibre connection, ahead of other premises in the village who will have to wait until the urban rollout reaches them. The (green) boxes, within the blue area, have access to 2 Gbps broadband, some within a stones-throw of the exchange with access to very good FTTC speeds.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,195 ✭✭✭heavydawson


    The wholesalers offer different speed products to the ISPs. These days those products are usually 500 / 1000 / 2000 mbps

    It's up to each ISP which of those products they want to offer. There are many reasons why ISPs wouldn't offer the 2gbps option among them:

    1. The ability of their CPE (Customer Premise Equipment AKA Router) to handle that speed.
    2. Their understanding of what customers will be ready to pay. If 90% of customers go for the 500mbps option, and only 10% go for the 1gbps, what's the point in offering 2gbps? You need demand for the product to back the cost of investing in the CPE, etc.

    NBI launched their 2gbps product in Jan last year:

    I'd say only 5-7 of the 20+ ISPs on the NBI network offer that 2gbps product.

    Things will likely change this year. The advent of Wifi 7 and new multi-gig CPE products will likely get the ISPs to slowly start pushing the 2gbps product.

    Bit long-winded, but ultimately that's why some ISPs have 2gbps and most don't.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,756 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    Yes it will be possible for you to pay for a fibre connection but you won't be able to order that connection until your eircode has been indexed to a DP, this has to be done by open-eir.

    Something else that occurred to me, maybe because you're in that urban catchment area with a separate pole and line to the local exchange with up to 100 mbps FTTC available, they haven't indexed your premises to that nearby DP, pole and line as it could be a different exchange area.

    It's been mentioned here before open-eir are building the new fibre network on the footprint of the old copper network, same routes, poles etc. NBI who are rolling out the NBP network are starting from scratch and aren't constrained like open-eir.

    That's why you'll have to give them a push to relook at this situation.

    Post edited by The Cush on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 396 ✭✭grimeire


    when you say more convenient is it the actual installer its more convenient for or for the ISP itself? If its the installer I can not see why they would not connect to the Fibre DP. Its 10m away.


    Thanks that makes more sense.


    So its not possible for me to pay for a fibre from the local cabinet/DP or replace existing copper line to cabinet to my house without open-Eir?


    Yes i was told i was connected to a cabinet a few KM down the road by someone on here when i gave them my details. This was years ago when all the ISPs told me they could not give me anything better than 10Mb but houses across the road were all able to get 100Mb+. The estate across the road has a fibre cabinet and that cabinet is about 60-70 meters from my place too.


    I always assumed my neighbor was connected to that same cabinet as his house is far older than the estate across the road like mine but since now he can get 2000Mb he could be connected to a different cabinet. If you look at the picture of the pole i provide. You will see 2 cables running off it. One of those is to my place and I always assumed the other was to my neigbors as his house is the only one within a 1KM in the direction it is running.


    The fiber to these poles is that run over ground or under as this pole has 2 cables running up from the ground which where not there before as far as i can remember but i find it hard to believe they ran cable underground just for this pole that only ever seems to service me and me neighbor. Also I assume they will run cables over head when connecting to a home as my neighbors drive way is in the way of this pole and my house.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,756 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    when you say more convenient is it the actual installer its more convenient for or for the ISP itself? If its the installer I can not see why they would not connect to the Fibre DP. Its 10m away.

    Convenient for open-eir as the fibre to the rural areas passed these premises from the local exchange as part of open-eir's 300k rural fibre rollout a few years ago

    So its not possible for me to pay for a fibre from the local cabinet/DP or replace existing copper line to cabinet to my house without open-Eir?

    open-eir, NBI and SIRO build, operate and maintain their respective fibre networks. They operate as wholesale providers and so don't sell direct to the public. Retail service providers such as eir, Vodafone, Sky etc. do this by reselling the wholesale networks fibre. To place an order your eircode must be included in the address file the wholesale providers maintain and provide to the retail providers.

    If you look at the picture of the pole i provide. You will see 2 cables running off it. One of those is to my place and I always assumed the other was to my neigbors as his house is the only one within a 1KM in the direction it is running.

    Confused now. In your first post you wrote that your house was connected to a different pole. ???

    The fiber to these poles is that run over ground or under as this pole has 2 cables running up from the ground which where not there before as far as i can remember but i find it hard to believe they ran cable underground just for this pole that only ever seems to service me and me neighbor. Also I assume they will run cables over head when connecting to a home as my neighbors drive way is in the way of this pole and my house.

    Two trunk lines, underground to the pole, one for copper and one for fibre. Looks like the copper trunk line's been there quiet a while up to the junction box behind the fibre box, you just hadn't noticed before now. Rural trunk lines will be a mix of underground and overground, for copper underground was done to avoid obstructions and crossing power lines.

    Fibre to your house will generally follow the same route as the copper line. Trees might be an issue and may have to be trimmed before they run fibre to the house.

    With the revelation that your house is connected to the pole with the DP and your eircode isn't in the address file try to contact open-eir to get them to assess the situation or via their sister retail provider eir.

    BTW, fibre runs directly from your local exchange, bypassing any intermediate cabinets, even if you copper line is connected to a cabinet.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 396 ✭✭grimeire


    Thank you for the response. I always thought that FTTH could mean fiber from a fiber cabinet to the home or fiber from an exchange to the home. Good to know its direct to the exchange.


    Im confused myself the more i look at the pole with the DP. So to clarify there was a cable running from pole B to the house till a few years ago but it was knocked down in a storm. As i dont have a land line or broadband so I never contacted Eir or whoever to get it fixed. Now I see from pole A there is a cable going to my house but it broken and i found the end of it(see attached image) in the Y set of trees there after seeing it ran from trees X to Y. I never noticed this cable before as I can only see it at the pole and running from trees Y to X but it seems that cable must of been connected to my house also as it the only house in that direction for about 1km and there are no poles.


    What I dont understand is it seems to be a single cable and if thats the case what was the cable from pole B to my house for as that is also a telecom cable. I can only assume that single cable serviced my house and a building in the north west that I believe pole B was connected to but I cannot say for certain thats where the line goes. What i can see is there is no poles anywhere else on the north side of the house so pole B must be going to poles along Z trees line and then to the building in the north west as is the only logical explanation.


    Im probably way over thinking this but what makes no sense is that when i enter in the eircode of the north west building it can get speeds a bit faster(up to 34Mbps) than me(up to 28Mbps). This would suggest to me the internet/connection is coming from the Nw side of the cable and and not mine but if thats the case then why would pole B be connected to pole A as it would of been far easier to connect to the neighbor with 2GB speed with a copper telephone line between north west building and me than to connect to my neighbor from pole A as I believe there is poles running along the Z set of trees.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,756 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    Whatever the situation is with the copper routing you need to get open-eir to update the situation with with regards to FTTH, the fibre distribution point couldn't be closer to your house. Probably not included because you're served from another pole/line.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 396 ✭✭grimeire


    Already have they said they would get back to me within the next month once they discuss internally. Hopefully they will do something as the others have all been a waste of time.


    For others monitoring this thread here is what i got back from all the of places i tired to contact.

    1. Broadband officer said nothing he could do as i can get up to 30Mb and that i need to contact ISPs and hope they were willing to connect me.
    2. Vodafone and Eir both said i am not in green area so nothing they can do but was only talking to sales people. Still waiting on Magnet, Puretelecom and Sky to see what they say.
    3. Comreg said the same as Broadband officer
    4. Department of the Environment, Climate and Communications said in my area i can get 30mbps to my premise. Therefore, State Aid rules do not allow for your premises to be taken into the National Broadband Plan Intervention area and that commercial providers have said that they will be fiber available at my location before 2026
    5. OpenEir said will review and advise us if fibre service is possible at my location within the next month.


    Funny thing is if i stick my eircode into any site and say i am a business all of a sudden I am able to get Fiber. Seems they can do what they want.




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,756 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    Could be a simple admin error with regards to your eircode seeing as business fibre is available.

    Good to see open-eir have responded, keep us updated.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,195 ✭✭✭heavydawson


    The 30mbps requirement is changing, so that argument won't hold soon:

    It's going to be 100mbps minimum from 2025 and 1000mbps minimum by 2030 for everyone in Europe.

    I know that doesn't help you in 2023, but have hope!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 396 ✭✭grimeire


    ill believe it when i see it. I have been told similar since 2011.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,909 ✭✭✭munchkin_utd


    My parents in law were consistently told they couldnt get internet quicker than utterly cr@p DSL running at 3mbps, and in practice you'd do well to even get that. No update on when it would be available or anything.

    We went down to visit them and barely 20m from their house there was a fibre junction box (or whatever the terminology is) on the same pole as where their telephone cable came from.

    The week after they rang up and explained that they can SEE the junction box barely a spiting distance from their house and in no time they were connected up.

    And, its not really a glitch in the website or software, its a glitch in the entire irish postcode system that was designed as a per property heap of dung, not an area code and drill down like in the UK, or even germany or USA which is more the size of a townland per unique code.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 396 ✭✭grimeire


    I don't know who's their provider but it sounds like a miracle to me.

    The postcode system over here is not to blame it's the whole pass the buck mentally they have. You can see pretty easily the neighbor can get it. The person from Eir I was talking to lives less than 1KM from my house and said they have the same issue. They don't seem to give 2 s**ts about the customer. If the ISPs/distributors had any brains in their heads they would see that spending €200 to run fibre from the pole to my place would be made back in a few months. Instead they hide behind that half the house is in blue and the other half is in the green.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 396 ✭✭grimeire


    Just got a great email from opener saying I can get fiber now. I'm green now along with everyone in a 1km radius on openeir map.

    Thanks for the help and suggestions everyone.




    Seems Vodafone see I can get 2000Mbps but switcher and some other sites still think I cannot get it.


    Is there a thread that compares the different provides such as support, actual speeds, equipment and extras like mobile here that I am missing? What happens with the equipment after the 12 month contract am i am to keep it or have to return it. I assume the equipment is different for all providers but does the equipment change depending on the plan for each provider.


    Got three mobiles in the house so could switch them too along with broadband.


    Looking towards Vodafone 2000Mbs as I have a number of servers at home that need decent upload/download but it's costly at 65 per month plus not sure what the equipment is like. There is a decent Vodafone deal on big switch which is appealing.


    Sky doing 500Mb for €30 which is the best I can see but there equipment from what I can find is not great.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,756 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    Great news, enjoy.

    No specific thread on the different providers.

    Post edited by The Cush on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,195 ✭✭✭heavydawson


    The equipment you can swap out yourself unless you plan to use Vodafone TV. If you're only using the internet, then you can use any router that allows setting the VLAN ID for your connection (the VAST majority of routers do this). There's plenty of threads here in boards showing how to configure 3rd party routers for connections. Vodafones gear looks pretty good TBH. To benefit from internal 2gb speeds, you'll need to purchase their SFP in to use with their Gigabox+ device

    https://n.vodafone.ie/content/dam/gowingmyself/pdfs/GigaboxPlus-Quick-Start-Guide.pdf

    The SFP is here:




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 396 ✭✭grimeire


    Thanks that was just what I was looking for on the router. Seems nuts to me that it only has 1 x 10Gb port and that's used for connection to ONT unless you buy the sfp adapter. Might not be possible with that router but many allow you to do link aggregation so you could turn the 4 * 1Gb ports into 1 * 4Gb port.

    I use a virtualized of pfsense at the moment so probably could just use that as my router



    What are the connections/ports available on the ONT. I assume it's one 10 Gb Ethernet and I don't really need to worry about the length of this cable when it comes to speed loss as long as it's within Ethernet cable 10Gb distance limit.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,195 ✭✭✭heavydawson


    I'm with NBI, so I can't speak for Siro/OpenEir, but usually it's a single optical terminal and a single 10GbE connection. Yeah, just invest in some some Cat 6a cable if possible, otherwise regular CAT6 should probably do for a domestic cable run

    Whereas Category 6 cable has a reduced maximum length of 55 metres (180 ft) when used for 10GBASE-T, Category 6A cable is characterized to 500 MHz and has improved alien crosstalk characteristics, allowing 10GBASE-T to be run for the same 100-metre (330 ft) maximum distance as previous Ethernet variants.

    Wikipedia ^



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 396 ✭✭grimeire


    Interesting that yours has both Ethernet and optical.

    Are both the connections actually wired to the fiber coming in or is only one?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,756 ✭✭✭✭The Cush




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 396 ✭✭grimeire


    Placed the order with vodafone yesterday and booked in for fitting next week which is far earlier than expected. Put a duct into the attic and ran the old telecoms cable from the Fiber DP through the duct into the attic so hopefully there will be no issues when they come to install and its a single visit.


    Quick question about the Fiber DP. I assume each one can only connect so many houses to it and i assume the DP have like a sinlge or multiple fiber 40Gbps connection to exchange and then that is broken down to multiple 1Gps/2Gps per individual house?


    If thats not the case then on average what is the average connection to these DP and is there a max number of homes that can be connect per DP.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,639 ✭✭✭deafroadrunner


    theyll be either 4/8/12/16 ports in dp going back to exchange where back end eqiupment will give the speed. so if your getting a gb that will come direct from exchange through cable to gpon and modem after that speed will depend on devices.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 396 ✭✭grimeire


    thank you.

    I assume they can upgrade these with more ports if needed bu running more fiber to the DP.


    Also i assume the fiber they run to the home will be faster than the package you get. I ordered 1Gps but i will be upgrading this as soon as i get the Ok from work to pay for it. Vodafone wont take credit card for payment which means i have to use IBAN and it makes getting work to pay for requires additional approval. My worry here is if i get 1Gps now and upgrade in a months time to 2Gps do they have to come out again and run a higher speed cable.


    Been a long time since i messed with fiber but there was only 1Gps, 10Gps and 40Gps cables when i did and dont think anything has changed, so I assume they are going to use 10Gps multimode cable to my home?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,639 ✭✭✭deafroadrunner


    doubtful but would depend where dp loctaed. if theres spare strands inside dp that can be used to add more. but that might be only in the case where theres only 4 ports in dp most likely being in a very rural area with maybe a house or two at the time of dp being installed.


    if you ordered a gig then thats what youll get.

    from your home its just a single core fibre cable



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,756 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    Plenty of fibre in the trunk cable anyway. Iirc when open-eir were rolling out their 300k rural fibre around here the trunk fibre cable contained 3 tubes of 12 fibres each.

    I think now most fibre is 10 Gbps symmetric, XGS-PON . Originally it was 2.4 / 1.2 Gbps asymmetric GPON. If the 2 Gbps profile is available to you the the trunk fibre lines are XGS-PON enabled.

    With a split ratio of 1:32 per fibre there's plenty of capacity.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,195 ✭✭✭heavydawson


    Their using XGS-PON for most of the networks now (OpenEirs early rural fibre deployment was GPON).

    XGS-PON will go up to 10gbps on the same fibre.

    25-GPON is on the way for the same fibre (not on NBIs roadmap for probably 10+ years though).

    So don't worry about the fibre. It'll be the same stuff for a long time, no new cables requirement. They'll upgrade the exchange equipment and the box in your house a good few times before the fibre out-of-date (decades away)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,756 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    Peter Hendrick of NBI said a few years ago their Nokia equipment was software upgradeable to 25G PON, so might appear sooner.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,195 ✭✭✭heavydawson


    The exchange equipment is software upgradeable to 25G:

    https://www.lightreading.com/opticalip/fttx/nokia-networks-boss-defends-bet-on-25g-pon/d/d-id/770670

    , but the CPE is not using the same hardware, and is also limited by the 10GbE port. Given the lack of ISPs offering the 2gbps product today, and the investment in the existing CPE, I really doubt (but happy to be wrong) that they'll be offering anything above 10gbps for 10+ years. But lets see.....it will depend heavily on what the competitors in the market offer.....



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 279 ✭✭NBAiii


    Not wishing to rain on your parade but be prepared for your installation to fail if there is heavy tree growth on the route the cable will take from the pole to your premises. From the images you have posted it seems this may be an issue. It may be your responsibility to have them cut depending on whose land they sit on.

    In relation to capacity, you will be sharing 10Gb/s up and down with up to 63 other premises.



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