Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings and threadbans - updated 11/5/24*

I’m lucky enough to have been born after that, but I did go to college during the recession in 2010. It took me years to get a decent job after college and now I have one, I am still living pay check to pay check. The 50% rent increase because of lack of housing hasn’t helped.

it’s clear the government won’t fix the housing problem in this country. Why do we keep letting people in?

I find it bizarre that the left are so pro "undocumented" asylum seekers, welcoming everyone from countries that are extremely anti LGBT.

Do these folk just turn Pro LGBT when they pass immigration. I already know the answer.

It’s not that strange. If the improvement in quality of life has more pros, than the cons of leaving everything behind, lots of people will always do it.

Lots of Irish people left a safe country in the 80s to take their chances working illegally in America. There were jobs there, and they wasn’t much in Ireland.

that would explain all the Georgians and Albanians who want to come to Ireland.

add in real poverty, and sometimes conflict, and it’s a no-brainier that Ireland is better option for so many.

how Ireland copes with unpredented immigration driven population growth is another question…

There is fundamental problem with that argument - the US has the ability to absorb enormous numbers of people due to scale and population.

We do not. We have a total population smaller than many large cities.

Were all vetted, no criminal records, I fear some released or escaped prisoners are coming here, our prisons with netflix etc., are luxury for them

We cannot manage our own criminals who should have longer punishments so why take on other countries criminals

Where are the wars they are fleeing from, I'm surprised aliens haven't arrived claiming running from Ukraine over the war which is in one part

And you’ll have the chief enabler Varadkar out front and centre at the next pride March. All insincere grin arrogant sound bites and hunting for votes and handshakes…an absolute disgrace of a man.

AFAIK they all can claim from war savaged Ukraine despite coming from Georgia, Algeria and so on, do our incompetent government even try tracing who they really are, finger prints, pasts etc., just let them stay even with no documents on arrival

O’Gorman explained that 10,000 beds have been added to the system since January, 

Amazon how we can house 10000 people but could never solve the homeless problem.

You'd be surprised by the people around this area. They wont take any **** if these lads move in and kick off.

Just what we needed anyway, more lads sitting on the church wall all day with the junkies 👍️

I've heard some crazy sh1t on boards but blaming refugees for the state of our healthcare system tops the lot.

We've near doubled our per capita spending in the past twenty yet services are largely worse.

30bn on the HSE and how much of that going to gougers? Management consultants, pr firms, quango charities, luxury offices.

How much to private temp agencies pocketing multiple of hourly rates for nurses and care workers?

How much managing the logistic mess that is our public/private split on antiquated IT systems.

How much to FFG cronies for mystery consultancy fees, remember Rehab?

All FFG can do is spend ever more on privitization and put the likes of Harris, the college dropout and office assistant in charge.

All of that and more, and people can point the finger at a few poor, misfortune refugees as the problem.

A new low.

Build homes not hate.

By virtue of the fact that these people are refugees, and are claiming asylum, they are not vetted before they flee (how could they be?) and as their asylum application is processed their records will be checked if available.

If it is found that they are criminal they will, eventually face deportation. If they are refused asylum they are asked to leave or deported but they, many of them, go underground before that can happen.

Many will leave Ireland for Europe illegally as Ireland is too small to stay unnoticed for long, even in cities.

I don't agree with all the hype about certain refugees culture and supposed crime waves. It hasn't materialised despite much touting from interested parties.

We have plenty of indigenous scumbags in this country who are well capable of worse. And have been running rings around our gardaí and legal system for years.

I do agree that with a small country with limited resources housing, education and healthcare but not money or jobs, we need to take stock. A discussion about how much is enough /too much, and put more money into policing, processing and deportation, as well as communicating better with communities all over the country so that the extreme right don't fill that void with hate and panic.

Here's those figures on healthcare spending.

https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/IRL/ireland/healthcare-spending#:~:text=Ireland%20healthcare%20spending%20for%202019,a%203.24%25%20increase%20from%202015.

I think you’re dreaming if you think that building in Dun Laoghaire will ever accommodate immigrants. Funnily enough,the Santry and Clondalkin centres are already kitted out and ready to go. We’re told the DL centre won’t be ready for months. Ha ha, it will fade out of memory. That Dun Laoghaire centre was just thrown in to stop people saying that these centres are always located in relatively poorer areas.