Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings and threadbans - updated 11/5/24*

"Anti refugee camp" is the type of language that can distort the argument though (I'm not saying you did this deliberately).

I reckon a miniscule proportion of people are anti refugee, it's the system and the people abusing the system that are the problem.

However, it is getting painted as anti refugee in the media and general chat sometimes. It's hard to change that narrative once it's started and you've some head cases making their loudest voice heard. A lot of people, including myself, will only really talk about the issues privately with people we tend to know will agree or at least not attack us for having our concerns with the system and those abusing the system. It's become to easy to dismiss any concerns with a few words "far right", "racist", "anti refugee", "they just want to be safe", etc.

I talked to a friend who had only read headlines of the East Wall coverage so didn't really have much of an opinion on what was happening but when I quoted two women interviewed by Newstalk about their concerns he was genuinely surprised he'd not heard any of that before.

I've documented proof of a sex-offender being flown into a tiny, remote town in West Clare.

This guy boasts about the kind of sick sh1t he likes to do to women.

And they just wave him through immigration, no vetting, no questions asked.

https://i.cbc.ca/1.6648317.1668117626!/fileImage/httpImage/image.JPG_gen/derivatives/16x9_780/usa-election-trump.JPG

I've news for you, those doctors weren't coming here anyway.

There's no houses and that's been coming for a long time, refugees or not.

Those doctors weren't going to be staying in tents or abandoned hotels.

A further shift to the right and scaremongering about foreign rapists isn't going to make the country more attractive to them either.

There doesn't have to be a shift to the right if current politicians applied some common sense rather than appealing to Twitter.

You do your argument no service with that silly stuff. We all know that young men in their 20s & 30s are going to be on the lookout to 'get their hole' if you'll excuse me being crude. It's basic human nature in Ireland, Brazil, Georgia, India wherever. This is one of the reasons why local residents are very wary of housing large groups of men in this category and particularly those coming from cultures where women are viewed as men's chattels.

So your problem is not with actual light skinned, ok orange, sex-offenders coming to West Clare, because he's what, old now?

It's with what these dark-skinned Muslims are hypothetically going to do, because of your generalizations about their culture. And because they're young.

It's ok everyone, old white people can't be sex offenders.

Doesn't really stand up does it?

For me it shows as nonsense that these protestors are out trying to protect the women.

Where the sex-offender was landed into a remote Clare village, no questions asked. Here you go.

https://www.independent.ie/world-news/north-america/donald-trump-to-visit-his-doonbeg-resort-for-two-night-stay-hotel-confirms/42444009.html

"ChatGTP explain to me why white rich sex-offenders are good. Dark imaginary ones are bad."

To me, this issue is more about government priorities than migrants. We have a housing crisis in this country because the government inflated house prices using the 200 billion euro it borrowed since 2008. Varadkar and O`Gorman seem flippant and distainful in their attitude to people who aspire to own their own home. Sinn Fein is no better, they seem to think people want to rent other people`s houses and are keen to throw them crumbs in the form of eviction bans and cheap flatpack shoeboxes to live in.

How about deflating the existing housing stock by the 200 billion it was inflated by? It`s easy, just tax property very heavily but exempt new builds and first time buyers for the next 20 years.

O`Gorman said he won`t go to Clare but the protesters can go to him. It sounds like the sort of thing Marie Antoinette would have said.

We need someone beter than Leo at the helm I think. I was struck by the coverage of the blockade in West Clare on yesterday evening's six-one onr RTE. Whatever about the situation in Inch and the rights or wrongs of it, the locals have concerns. It seems like this was foisted on them with maybe a few day's notice. My suspicion on what's happening is that those in the know are deliberately keeping locals in the dark until the 11th hour for fear of trouble in the lead up. We've had cases where facilities have been the victims of arson before so it does make sense to be coy about proposed locations. However, in this case, rather than talk to the locals and admist that they had some concerns and attempt to assuage those, we had Leo coming out on his high horse saying that nobody has the right to dictate who and who cannot live in their area. I dont' think that's the essential issue here. Rural Ireland has had a steady influx of new people for quite a long time. People don't essntially mind it. However when a large group of non-nationals are suddenly parachuted into a small area, I don't see how there would not be concerns.

Leo seems to be doing his best to fuel the fire by telling locals that they should shut up because their concerns don't matter. Telling people they don't have a right to dictate who lives in their community might be essentially correct but the issue here is the sudden and large influx of new people to the community without links or a shared culture or even the ability to integrate. It's a bad message and it's only compounded by Roderick O'Gorman refusing to meaningfully engage with the residents. More high-handed stuff there. I can't see how this won't breed even more fear and discontent in other communities facing an influx as seen in Inch. I can't see how other communities now will not be on watch for developments like this. Seems to be blaming those affected by the govenment's bad approach to planning for the results of the bad approach to planning. It's scary because we are generally an open and accepting country but government need to realise that if you keep doing what they're doing and are pushing people beyond what they can accept, and imposing situations on them then acting like it's a fait acompli and their problem, it's going to cause trouble.

They said they knew for months sure. Just kept it quiet.

https://twitter.com/HollyCairnsTD/status/1658829878181916675

That's not entirely true. There are of course some useful idiots in the mix but the vast vast majority are those grifting and pilfering a living out it in the advocacy and NGO side. What a way to sell your soul