Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings and threadbans - updated 11/5/24*

I didn't even see that until now, but once I saw the rest of your posts I saw I had misjudged you.

I apologised earlier in the thread and am happy to do so again.

I never said anything about a deluge. I said any were welcome as they are. They can apply to work once here six months on asylum.

But its not just healthcare.

They are working in schools and many other jobs.

They only get a tiny stipend as provision, not dole so the incentive is there to work unlike the sssertion made by posters that people were here for benefits or the money.

By your own post.. They listened, but they didn't agree. With the protestors I mean.

Do those protestors speak for everybody in the area?

There is a difference between listening and engaging and doing what certain people want over others.

Maybe middle ground somewhere.

Whoever I responded to said the people we have emigrating are highly skilled, I refuted that. And there probably are 1000s arriving every year in Australia, certainly in the UK, just most of them don't stay there forever.

Well thats kind of the problem, nobody asked them at all they were just bussed in to the place.

The government has form on this and up to now thought they could get away with it.

Same thing happened last year here where I live but it was Ukrainian women and kids so none of us said anything but if it was unvetted men they put here we would feel the same as the folks in Clare.

The bribing has began

https://twitter.com/conwayforclare/status/1659121402606125063

Was there not lots of objections to travellers getting houses and halting sites etc., by even TDs but now no one can object protest etc.,

Yes based on what I suggested, new builds would increase because cash rich property owners would be selling their existing properties in order to buy new builds. Existing houses (of which there are many) would fall in price because the owners of those properties would be selling to people who are just starting out in life and it is those buyers who would determine the market price for those properties. The prices would keep falling until the buyers can afford them.

It is a mistake on several levels to say the state should build houses. For one thing, it was the state that caused the housing crisis by inflating existing housing stock and rendering new builds unviable. My suggestion would make new builds highly viable and deflate the cost of existing houses. If the state were to build houses, they would hire private companies to do it. And, of course whenever the state does anything, there are opportunities for corrupt politicians and civil servants to make a buck for themselves and that feeds back to the taxpayer or forward to the end user in the form of mouldy ceilings, fire hazards, hypothermia in the winter and so on.

Also, the state really only want to house the masses and they want to do it cheap. Suppose you don`t want to live in a cheap house the state built. Suppose you want to be able to afford a nice house in a nice area of your choice? Suppose you want to be able to afford a house with a bit of history and character? My suggestion would make that possible.

I get that. So is it more buses or what people are looking for ?

Maybe you could explain what it is that locals want ?

All refugees are checked out for criminal records prior replacement btw galwayguy , but it's not the same in depth vetting thatyou or I would go through before taking up a job with vulnerable people obviously

However it's more than some of those protesting , in Dublin anyway, have had , the necks on some of them !

Right. So basically according to you the protesters are racist and should welcome any number into their community with open arms even if it means a huge drop in services for everyone? I don’t know where you are based but I sense the effect isn’t as accute where you are.

Two things the government have been terrible at: 1) housing & 2) public transport in rural areas. Now they're dependent on public transport in rural areas to facilitate 'temporary' housing of refugees

Would you trust them on that though?

Calm down. The issue here is that the government want to steamroll any and all opposition. I’ve a feeling the protestors in inch would gladly engage with elected representatives and did with the local ones. The minister is tge one who pushed back. Now they’ve sent the junior minister out which is a step in the right direction. I’m still going to reiterate that Dublin I’d vastly different to a small rural area. I agree services are stretched everywhere but if you asked me would I prefer to be a refugee in a small rural town with poor services or one in an area of a large city with stretched services, I’d take the city any day. The options are far better, quality of life would be better.

I engaged, you went for me , so I responded .😉 But fair enough . I do think they need to communicate better.. if nothing else then, this might improve now .

Not happy with protests after personal experience of the thugs threatening and shouting all sorts, stirring locals up . The lies they told ...leaflets with complete bollxxx and some people were really scared and panicked.

None of it came to pass . The disruption for that time has died down and nobody wants to even think about it now .

The refugees are integrating with schools and some working , but yes there is bound to be an effect on essential services . There is a limit everywhere to capacity in services , not just in rural areas .

Also they have to try to integrate people all over the country .

Ghettoisation of refugees in cities and large towns is not fair to urban dwellers nor refugees.

I think it might be better to locate families/ older people in rural areas rather than young men but they are desperate to place people .

Fair point and tge refugees already here are making positive contributions and integrating in the area which is what everyone wants.

The locals in Inch don’t sound like they’re being influenced (yet) by those troublemakers who always show up to these kind of things. I believe what I e heard though when they say the facility isn’t suitable. It’s not my area so they obviously know it better.

The patronising tone from the government is very unwelcome. It’s stopping just shy of intimating that they are racially motivated and that is the real crime here. Having to be dragged kicking and screaming to even engage with local residents isn’t a good look. What’s more they’re not helping their cause in the longer term. In the end refugees get lobbed in the middle of nowhere with no natural engagement with the local community and just far enough away from major population centres to make getting there impractical unless you can get a taxi and that’s not cheap nowadays.