Wokeism of the day *Revised Mod Note in OP and threadbanned users*

The point is taking a snippet from a single video capturing part of an incident and parroting it widely on the internet as somehow being related to the trans issue is a bizarre approach to take to life. This incident should not have made it to any media, it was an argument between two people where only the people involved know all the facts. There is a certain mindset now that will actively seek out any snippets of information, with no regard to context, that might taint individuals that present a worldview that might be opposed to their own and then present that individuals behaviour as representative of all of those who may have a similar worldview. Its bizarre and unhinged to be honest.

Maybe this person is complete c u next tuesday, or maybe they are a victim of hate, either way there was absolutely no reason for this to be a story on social media, the daily mail or elsewhere.

Who is taking sides may I ask you? Why is some one not jumping to conclusions based on a snippet of information and conflicting information presented by those involved automatically identified as "taking a side".

It was minor incident the like of which happen everywhere everyday. That it blew up into a thing on the internet is f*cked up and emblematic of the desire to present every minor incident involving an individual as being representative of anyone who people consider of being of the same tribe eg "here is this trans individual behaving badly, those bloody trans people".

But go on with your Helen Lovejoy "its a crime!", " they are a psychopath" hysteria in an attempt to keep presenting a minor altercation as a "trans" or "woke" issue.

Keeping it light hearted how this ever got to a tribunal is beyond me. Absolutely the right decision made.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-65632912

If everything in the article below is true, it sounds like the employer will be in trouble for not following the correct procedure/legislation for sacking an employee. That's if what Spain did warrants a sacking. A phone call and then a sacking an hour later doesn't sound like it's the correct procedure for a sacking in the UK.

Slapping the phone out of someone's hand could be deemed assault.

Calling someone a name doesn't give someone the right to assault someone though. Slapping the phone out of someone's hand is probably assault. Christiano Ronaldo was cautioned by UK police for knocking the phone out of someone's hand after a game. At the time of Spain knocking the camera out of Andrew's hand, there was no allegation of wrongdoing on Andrew's part. He just filmed the incident. Fair enough, an examination of Andrew's social media after the event shows him using homophobic slurs etc. but that's after the event and he should rightly receive criticism for that. But Spain had no right to knock the phone out of his hand.

So. I’m a lazy, cowardly managerial type who will throw people into hostile situations. I’m also a weak willed coward who allows others to abuse me. This got personal very quickly.

Just for the record. You don’t know a single thing about me. My age, my gender, my sexual orientation, my race, my history…. nothing. You don’t know if my retail experience is personal or not (although maybe if you trawl through enough posts you might, you’ve proved to be more than capable of that). You are an argumentative gaslighting hyperbolic bully, who infers the worst possible meaning from others posts and just runs with it. When you can’t twist words you just make em up, or attack with some made up shite like the above. It takes very little for it to come to the surface. It’s boring and childish.

Stop generalizing to the extreme and stop summarizing the points being made incorrectly and moving the goal posts. Nobody (at least not me and I don’t see it elsewhere) said someone being physically abused are not allowed defend themselves.

What was said was that someone being allegedly (yes allegedly) verbally abused in the workplace cannot expect to keep their job when the only evidence shows them as the aggressor and physically LEAVING the work premises to take someone else’s personal property.

There's a slight difference between "you've never worked in retail" and "you must throw your workers under the bus or be a cowardly abuse victim," and by slight difference I mean a massive gulf. If anyone here is a bully it's you, doubly so if you actually think Danonino is an abuse victim.

Be kind. She is probably trans-slender

It does when you think about it this way: these people making these decisions are not real professionals, their jobs are not a real jobs, they don't add any value to their organizations. They are just mouthpieces with no sense of what business is and no vision and no strategy. Normally they put out boring pointless PR campaigns which no one cares about, things like corporate responsibility, nonsense about the environment and zero carbon and all that crap, they pat themselves on the back and they get back to their home which is not carbon neutral or inclusive or diverse. So they do this until they fk up, and only then the real impact of their job is felt.

I wasn't referring to proper marketing and advertisement, those are real jobs with real impact, no one can deny that. It used to be a time when selling your product and creating brand awareness and generally creating value for your employer and its shareholders/investors was all it mattered. But somehow some of them got a wrong idea that they are actually more than they are, they started these political campaigns, they started for no explainable reasons to appeal to the looney left. This is when their job stopped being a real job.