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Any 530e owners out there?

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  • Registered Users Posts: 18 Dayo Kayo




  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,802 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    That’s strange. I assume you’ve tried deleting the app, also unpairing the car and trying to start it again.

    Maybe try it on another phone to see if any services come up?

    It may also be a setting in the car that needs to be set by the dealer?

    Ive never seen that one if I’m honest.



  • Registered Users Posts: 18 Dayo Kayo




  • Registered Users Posts: 47 Maddic_Irl


    Range isn’t an issue when charging is easy. The time it takes to charge and availability, I don’t wish to plan a trip to Dublin like it’s a pub crawl, I have a heavy right foot so there is wltp, real world and my world, just would not suit me tbh



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,802 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    I suppose that depends on where you coming from. I haven’t used a public charger in years. Can do sun to Belfast and back without stopping to charge.



  • Registered Users Posts: 18 Dayo Kayo


    Tried everything. Got on to the dealer and they said I should be getting the basic info still (charge status etc) Told me to

    get on to BMW assitance. Jaysus, they were useless. At the end of 3 very long calls they just said "Yea, you'll have to pay €100 to

    get a subscription".



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,802 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    Absolutely horrendous from BMW but I’m not surprised.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,351 ✭✭✭Cloudio9


    When I go in to the BMW Connected Drive store the following are listed as "unlimited duration".

    -Connected Drive Services

    -Intelligent Emergency Call

    -Remote Services

    -Teleservices

    BMW eDrive Services is valid until Jan-2024.

    My car was originally a UK car



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,802 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    Same here.

    @Dayo Kayo Open the app, scroll down and click on the BMW Store tab.

    Let us know what it says against the services in there.



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  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,213 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    Mine has a different list , it is also originally a UK car from late 2019.

    It only shows the following as "Unlimited Duration" on mine

    • Intelligent Emergency call
    • Smartphone Integration (Carplay and Android Auto only)
    • Teleservices

    I do have an active "Connected Booster Package" at the moment which lists the following Services

    • Automate my Habits
    • BMW Intelligent Personal Assistant
    • Connected Navigation with real time traffic
    • Connected Charging (This is the one for being able to see charge state)
    • In-Car Experiences
    • Vehicles Apps
    • Alexa Integration
    • Remote Services (Locking the car from the app , Remote Climate start etc.)




  • Registered Users Posts: 18 Dayo Kayo




  • Registered Users Posts: 18 Dayo Kayo


    Also, if I was to pay the €100, it would only last for a year! WTF



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 564 ✭✭✭WillyWonka


    I just got a 192 530e (love it) and set up the app from scratch. Originally a UK car. I'm getting this subscription prompt too, which is disappointing.

    Was the unlimited duration an option from new I wonder?

    Disappointing not to be able to see basic info.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,351 ✭✭✭Cloudio9


    Did you get your car from a BMW dealer ? BMW dealers go through all the app setup with you as part of the car handover so I imagine they don't want that experience to include them saying "now take out your credit card and pay €100" right after you've just handed them 40k.



  • Registered Users Posts: 18 Dayo Kayo


    Yea, I'm guessing that the unlimited option was from when the car was brand new. Pretty bad though. I would even consider paying but not an annual fee, f**k that.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 564 ✭✭✭WillyWonka


    No it wasn’t a BMW garage. To be fair the garage i bought it from said he’ll check with bmw. We’ll see…



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,802 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    Trying to find info for someone here.

    There was a posted whose 530e black trim discolored and I was wondering if it was a warranty job or what bmw said about it.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,213 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    That was me.

    BMW replaced it under warranty.

    In my case they replaced one of the fog light surrounds and also the little piece of trim between the kidney grills (where the front camera goes).

    I asked them about it and the Service guy called the warranty person in the dealer and they approved it pretty much immediately.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,802 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,705 ✭✭✭BrookieD


    Hi All, Looking for a little advice. Currently driving a Lexus IS300h 2018 and while its a great car it a little small for me as i prefer the next segment up and as such looking to get back into a 5series. 530e is the preferred option as the one thing the Lexus has its the hybrid and the almost 950km range from the 2.5 petrol and ev assist under a 55ltr tank.

    My commute is a 33km from home to work 3 days a week. I have access to a work charge point so can charge at work for free in a couple of hours and at home on 3 pin until i get a charge point. I am hoping most of my commute can be under electric where possible?

    reading a fair bit in this post i am looking to get real world range on a circa 2018 530e. been to see a few and just love the look and feel of them so anything i should be aware of from a running cost or problem areas?


    Thanks in advance



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 441 ✭✭WacoKid


    First thing to determine is if the battery is 7.5kw or 12kw, the latter obviously having longer range. You also need to consider the ambient temperature at any given time as this has an effect on range.


    I have a 7.5kw battery and would guess its shy of 20km in winter and just shy of 25km in summer. Driving styles needs to be considered also though.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,213 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    Mines a 12kw and I'd get ~30km in winter and ~38km in Summer. I have gotten closer to 50km in summer reasonably regularly but that requires really paying attention to driving style.

    However , driving style and journey type play a big part.

    You'll get the best mileage from a single medium speed journey - So on your commute if you can drive most of it at a steady 80/90km on a dual carriageway or whatever you'll do much better than lots of stop start in heavy traffic.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,799 ✭✭✭maddness


    Do any of you bother to use public chargers or is it a waste of money?

    I picked up a 2022 330e this morning and was just wondering if it is worth it?



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,213 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    Pretty rarely to be honest.

    I have a charger at home and that is all I need.

    Given that the car charges very slowly , you'd need to be connected to a Public Charger for 3+ hrs for a full charge so unless you are parking up for the day in town to go shopping or something it's just not worthwhile.

    I have used "private" chargers (for the want of a better term) many times - They have chargers at my office and I take my father to hospital appointments and often plug in there because I know I'll be there for a few hours.

    But in terms of on-street public chargers, I almost never use them.

    Put it this way - When I got my car a little over 2 years ago I set up an ESB charging account and put €20 credit on the card.

    I think I still have about 6 or 7 euro left on the card from that original €20!!



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,802 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    Nope. I wouldn’t use a public charger on the 530e. The cost compared to waiting against just getting on with your journey.

    Remember, they can only charge at 3.7kw. So you can only use the slow charge points which are 56c per kWh. So that’s about €4.50 fill and a 2.5 hour wait.

    Charge every night at home.

    Edit. You have the 2022 12 kWh battery so 56c X 12 =€6.72. I wouldn’t be stopping on a run to charge myself. Dublin is paid parking too so you’d be paying twice. It wouldn’t be for me. Substantially cheaper at home.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,005 ✭✭✭Buddy Bubs


    Are there loads of work chargers? Are there any full EVs at work?

    There's a guy works with us we don't allow him use the chargers for his outlander phev as it charges too slow, needs to charge every single day and he works away from the office so can't even plug out when its finished. Feel a bit bad denying him but resources must be used properly.

    Another has a 330e but he must charge at home never even asked about charger in work. Or he doesn't bother charging at all, not sure.

    Theres 2 of us with full EVs that plug in once a week and fully charge in a few hours. 11kw charger.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,928 ✭✭✭kanuseeme


    Public charging is cost neutral at the moment, the only perks are free parking (not everywhere) and saving polar bears and pacific islanders, I myself charge whenever I can, 10 seconds to do it, not much point in buying a phev and not charging it tbh, if your parking and the charger is there might as well use it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,705 ✭✭✭BrookieD


    we have a couple of chargers, however i am in the office from 6:30/7am 3 days a week so i can top up for a couple hours and then move it before the crowd get in. We have a pretty good crowd that rotate cars when done so not to block chargers all day with one car. i think they are looking at a couple more charge points this year also. my plan is to charge for 3 days in office. then the rest of the week i can potter around from thursday to sunday and then charge monday morning. i can charge at home if needed in the mean time



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,705 ✭✭✭BrookieD


    Was just having a think about my commute. its a 33km with a run down the N2 onto the M50, off at the Red Cow and onwards for a couple miles. Then Return.

    i can use battery only on the N2 - flick into petrol/mix on M50 and back to battery from red cow to office.

    i think this gets me a good 60/70% if not more on leccy and the rest on mix so would think petrol usage would be minimal - i deep dive too much into this stuff.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,802 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    I don’t think you’ll get thurs-mon on the same charge to be honest. With PHEV you have to take account of dragging the engine with you.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,005 ✭✭✭Buddy Bubs


    Yep, overthinking it! First and foremost you are looking at buying a 5 series, not an EV. 5 series among the most highly regarded cars on the road for the last 40 odd years, very hard to find anything better. I have had plenty of them.

    Its an expensive car no matter what year you are buying and trying to trick yourself into thinking you have a full EV while always having to think about your next charge session will wreck your head and diminish your enjoyment of the car and leave you disappointed.

    Very few better cars or nicer places to sit than the likes of a 5 series/A6/ EClass and to be worrying whether you're using petrol or electricity all the time will be a headwreck. I also think trying to plug in after every drive will be massive pain in the hole, I looked at both 530e and A6 PHEV to replace my A6 diesel and decided to go completely left field and bought a full EV, Cupra Born. Is it as nice as a 5 series or A6? No, not even close, but I plug in once, maybe twice the odd week, I plugged in to 100% on Monday and I am sitting at 72% now. You will need to plug in 10+ times a week to run on battery mainly, after every drive really and that includes lugging cables out in the rain and wind most weeks here in Ireland. Might be easier to say not today!

    However, I still have my eye on the i5 and a6 etron coming out later this year so I get the draw of premium manufacturers and big plush cars.

    Buy the car, enjoy it, charge when you can, put petrol in when you need it, sit back, let the car decide to use petrol or battery. Overall cost of ownership when you decide to sell it won't be massively affected by buying a diesel, a petrol or a PHEV.

    For what its worth, if there was a 100km electric range PHEV available in the above cars, I'd be buying one in a heartbeat. I think theres a C Class close to that actually.

    Although going out of fashion a bit now, I do think longer range PHEV will turn out to be a big part of the long term future of motoring albeit with very high petrol prices, not everyone is going to go EV.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 441 ✭✭WacoKid


    With the temperature now above 12-13 degrees the 530e 7.5kw range has increased significantly. I got 30kms from a charge at the weekend, where during the winter it would have been more like 20ish.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,802 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    Same here. Although the car still thinks it’s on a bit of monster juice and displayed 40km range today 🤣🤣



  • Registered Users Posts: 13 JorgeL


    What are thoughts on the battery life? Been hearing roughly 6-7 years.. and pretty expensive to get. Im thinking of buying a 2018 which will be 5 years old at this stage. I don't want to get a massive shock in a couple of years time..



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,802 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    2017 here and still going strong.

    BMW BMS is one of the best out there IMO.



  • Registered Users Posts: 13 JorgeL


    Is it worth taking out a warranty with BMW?



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,802 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    Depends on cost. And your panic levels.

    Battery can be picked up across the pond for cheap enough. Cheaper than a timing chain replacement now.

    @unkel picked one up for his EV conversion recently.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65,741 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    Indeed and BMW have an excellent reputation for their EV batteries. The ones in early i3 are now 10 years old and not known at all to be prone to failure. Always worth your while to check with BMW how much an extended warranty is for your car. Your call to then make the trade off, peace of mind, vs the extra cost of the warranty

    Also just checked and the BMW warranty on PHEV batteries is 6 years or 60k miles whichever comes first. So might be tempting to get a 2018 car where you have another year of warranty left, instead of a 2017 car. If the price difference isn't that high.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,899 ✭✭✭Paddy@CIRL


    Folks, I've been eyeing up a G30 530e to replace my Golf R Estate in the coming months. I love pretty much everything about the Golf, but the fuel costs and that it spends 99% of its time doing regular commutes, makes it feel a bit wasted.

    I've always wanted a 5 Series, and would prefer to avoid diesel so the 530e looks like an ideal replacement. I'm just wondering, for those of you that have young kids, is the reduced boot space of the saloon sufficient? We're expecting our first kid later this year, and the only thing that's giving me doubt is going from the load space in the Golf Estate (610 litres with the rear seats up) to 410 litres in the 530e.

    Finally, has anyone had their 530e remapped? If so, what has been your experience? Thank you!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,468 ✭✭✭✭mickdw


    Did someone here have trouble with the extended warranty not covering battery issues.



  • Registered Users Posts: 13 JorgeL


    Great! from what I've read the 530e's are great cars. Just trying to get as much info as possible before spending 35+k on a car.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,213 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    Yep - Extended warranty does not cover the Battery and only the "Comprehensive" warranty covers the electric motor - See my earlier post below.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65,741 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    Are you buying new? If so you could hold out for the fully electric i5. Performance of the faster versions should blow your Golf R out of the water so you won't miss it for a second 😁

    It's smaller sibling the i4 was well received albeit expensive



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,899 ✭✭✭Paddy@CIRL


    Looking at used pre-facelift cars at the moment, and surprised by how many options there are out there.

    I'm not ready to go full EV yet, but I have driven i4 (both 40 & M50), iX3, i7 & iX and am a big fan of them. An i5 Touring could be on the cards in years to come, but for the time being, PHEV would suit me perfectly.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,802 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    First child…..

    so you’ll have the big buggy, basket etc

    Its tight. We get the bugaboo cameleon in and. Adds bits packed around it if that helps. But it’s quite a small boot and noticeable when parked beside out 535d.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,351 ✭✭✭Cloudio9


    The boot doesn't look too bad when you first look at it but is an awkward shape with two levels and isn't great. The boot on a regular 5 series isn't great either when compared to say a Passat and it doesn't even have a spare tyre.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 441 ✭✭WacoKid


    The boot has a shelf that can be lifted up to make it flat. I see some who keep the boot as 2 step but I keep the lower shelf up to give me a flat boot.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 49 Edgardo.


    How does the Volvo V90 recharge compare. Wouldn't that have more space but the drawback being poorer driving dynamics.



  • Registered Users Posts: 202 ✭✭Jog501


    Just to note, some specs don't have folding rear seats, I think it's a paid option, so really limits what you can fit in the car.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 441 ✭✭WacoKid


    It's not the folding rear seats. The boot compartment itself has a step shelf on the floor that can be either down or up, up making the boot flat.



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