Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny

@JPup

It was MILES better.

First reviews are in, it doesnt sound promising, mostly 3 out of 5.

ohoh !

"Indeed, the standing ovations for Ford were louder before the movie played. The film’s elaborate action scenes and witty one-liners delivered by Waller-Bridge received a less-than-rapturous response inside the theater. During parts of the 142-minute film, audience members could be heard whispering out of boredom in French."

They were whooping and a hallering when they saw Top Gun a couple of years back so they can behave if they are entertained lol. Mangold good yeah, Waller-Bridge could be setup to fail here if she comes across as annoying. One reviewer on RT said it was better than Crystal Skull but not by much.

Dammmmmn! Reading excerpts from reviews is going to be entertaining

Here, though, the action is generic and clunkily staged – for all the local detail in every individual shot of the heavily advertised tuk-tuk chase, it might as well be taking place on an endless conveyor belt. As for the comedy – well, Waller-Bridge has clearly been given the instruction to “just do Fleabag” but she’s operating without Fleabag-level material here, and her frequent attempts to juice up the clumsy gags with her trademark winking delivery tend to fall flat. (While she’s perfectly decent in the role – and every bit as much the hero of the piece as Ford – audience members unfamiliar with her television work may be puzzled as to why she’s here in the first place.)

The film is loaded with mayhem but painfully short on spark and bravado: there’s no shot here, nor twist of choreography, that makes you marvel at the filmmaking mind that conceived it. 

Even the unapologetically pulpy climax, in which the dial’s time-travelling powers are finally put to use, feels frivolous and offhand. As the antikythera does its history-altering thing, you can’t help but wish someone would twist it back to the point at which this film was commissioned and say: “Actually, do you know what? Four were enough.”

It would be nice to have ONE thread not descend into the evils of mythical Liberal agendas.... just one

MI is going to hurt it for sure, a lot of cinema goers will not go to the cinema more than once a month, which is going to win , a poorly reviewed film or one that has momentum behind it.

of course it's product - Disney own the rights and they want to get one last payday out of them while HF is still available (though I'm sure they're looking at digitally recreating him for future episodes). It's heritage cinema aimed squarely at middle-aged fans of the first 3 films.

I swear Disney just love to lose money....

I'll be happy enough if it's just an entertaining enough time at the cinema. I find a lot of the hand-wringing about it to be overdone. We all know it's not going to come within an asses roar of the classics and the original trilogy is still going to be there, so I'm okay with it just being what it is without it being downright bad.

Let me guess, Indy is old, useless, broken down, can't do anything right and Pheobe Waller Bridge is great at everything, full of sass, wit and puts down Indy at every single opportunity.

Hopefully Hollywood gets the hint and Waller Bridge goes away. She ruins everything she touches. Heavily featured in the worst Star Wars movie at the box office, portraying probably the worst character in Star Wars film history in L3, who yes, was actually worse than Holdo and Jar Jar. Writing credit on a bottom 5 Bond movie. And a starring role in what's shaping up to be the worst Indiana Jones movie. She truly has the anti-midas touch.

Top Gun Maverick proved what people want to see from these legacy sequels. They want the legacy characters treated with the utmost respect, knowing more than the rookies, schooling them even. They want them to be competent, and still as cool as they were all those years ago.

Maybe he has lost a step but he should still be the sharpest guy in the room still have the quickest wits. He should be the one showing her the ropes. Him still having it is what people want to see, not him being a sad miserable excuse for a man who gets constantly ridiculed by some know-all, great at everything sassy amazing woman.

Unfortunately, Kathleen Kennedy only knows one way to treat a legacy character - like a bumbling incompetent idiot, that needs to be treated with kid gloves, consistently patronised and put down routinely, by the far more superior female character. See also: Obi Wan and the child Leia, Luke and Rey.

Imagine if Top Gun Maverick had been made by Disney 🤣

The movie was always going to be subpar, the previous movie ruined it by moving away from the supernatural, they could have course corrected with this one, have a movie based on the Russians finding another artifact to rival the Ark and have Indie do something to hide both again or some such. Or if you have to have nazis in it, do some Nazis on the run, Israel, artifact, the stuff writes itself.

At this stage the it would be amazing if the leaks werent directionally correct so you have a movie going from a possible 8/10 going down to a 5/10

I doubt he did it for the cash, you maybe have 5 or 6 good years left, you dont want to be spending 2 of them schlepping around movie sets, maybe he thought it would redeem the previous movie?

Probably a fair explanation, decent roles are rare enough for someone aged 80+, at least Clint can cast himself in his own movies. Apparently HF didn't really enjoy doing the Star Wars movies and only came back for The Force Awakens on condition his character was killed off. But he does enjoy doing the Indiana Jones series. I doubt the stars give much of a damn about the "legacy" aspects of these long running series.