Ukraine (Mod Note & Threadbanned Users in OP)

And then about the answer to the question re Putin.

We all know who and what putin is we all know how corrupt he is and his leadership nobody is denying it certainly not me ,

Rumors from pro russian accounts.

The same ones that say they have blown up all of Ukraines HiMars systems, leopard 2 tanks and F16s that they don't have yet

Meanwhile Zelensky is attending the G7 conference like a a lot of world leaders why would he be in a rush to get home.?

Got to do a little better than that.

What Nato video call,

Have you anything substantive other than I heard a rumour on pro russian social medias , conspiracy theories

So two pro Russian social media accounts

So it's a conspiracy theory?

Refute what exactly? Rumours and suspicions emanating from dubious sources?

There is nothing substantive to disprove so far.

Given how many similar clains from such sources have shown to be blatant lies. And how many dubious claims you have posted to this thread there is no benefit of the doubt here.

Zelensky's "world tour" to secure support for Ukraine, including potential F-16s, and dominating the G7 talks seems to have yet another positive effect - triggering the Putin apologists and campists no end.

Were seeing various claims that F16s will be arriving and flying in Ukraine sometime in the next 4 months depending on who's claim you believe,

While the announcement has come about a coalition to train pilots on western aircraft , several UK vice Air Marshall saying It's likely going to take 2 years for the Ukrainans to be trained to fly F16s and prepare the logistics including training maintenance crews on brand new systems and ways of Nato operational requirements

I'm surprised there hasn't been an effort to set up a Flying Tigers type of outfit for Ukraine. There's no shortage of experienced fighter pilots, driving airliners or the like. Give Ukraine the fighters, let former Western pilots fly them while Ukrainian ones train up on the systems.

Rogoway from the Warzone has been banging the drum about Australias mothballed F-18s since the start of the conflict. A better option than the F-16s, due to a more rugged airframe and endurance.

I mean, who **** cares what Russia claims. They're not going to do anything against NATO

It could be down to the assessment of Russias military capabilities. The more they fought, the more they exposed the low quality of equipment and personnel. Even a year ago they looked a lot more capable than they do now.

Well tell Putin to take his soldiers out and go home . He and he alone is the aggressor - 100%. He is the one who started it.

and he started it on somebody else’s land that has nothing got to do with him . He invaded another soverign country , has ruined the lives of millions , killed thousands, scorched villages , towns and cities and will only GO HOME if he is allowed to take home ‘ UNDER HIS ARM’ a large slice of another country and rule over it. So how do you even start dealing/ reaching agreement with guy after he having done all of this apart from he being a compulsive liar?. The current strategy is the only one until the situation in Russia changes that allows an alternative strategy - which hopefully does not include the use of arms FOREVER