Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings and threadbans - updated 11/5/24*

Meanwhile there are charity fundraisers trying to raise money for various health services.

Fine Gael promised in 2011 to end Direct Provision. They made many promises in 2011.

Some reporters were following the money long before the current spike in numbers.

April 2020

Special Report: How accommodating asylum seekers turned into a billion-euro industry (irishexaminer.com)

Special Report: How accommodating asylum seekers turned into a billion-euro industry.

The largest earner in terms of government-contracted accommodation is Mosney Holiday PLC, which, as of 2017, received €139,577,808. Director Phelim McCloskey and his wife Elizabeth are owners of the former Butlin’s holiday camp, the 300-acre Mosney Direct Provision centre in Co Meath, which houses 600 asylum seekers.

The couple donated €6,500 to Fianna Fáil in 2008.

The State has also paid Bridgestock Ltd €109,457,663 since 2002.

It has housed more than 500 asylum seekers in Ballyhaunis in Co Mayo and in Sligo, and is directed by Seamus and Michael Gillen.

Galway businessman Eoghan McGinty is no longer a director, after resigning in 2017. In 2011, shares were transferred to an offshore company registered in the British Virgin Islands.

Millstreet Equestrian Services, with an address in Tipperary, provides accommodation under the direct-provision system, in Cork, Tipperary, and Waterford, with directors listed as Noel C Duggan and Thomas A Duggan. They were paid €77,244,129 from 2000 to 2017.

and on and on ....

“You’re dealing with a system which has been outsourced, like everything else in Ireland. It’s run by private operators, totally ill-equipped to deal with the emotional and social needs of the people in centres; you’re dealing with an unsympathetic department.” Mr Ó Ríordáin recounts the day that the McMahon report was launched in 2015 as a crystalising moment for him.

“The NGOs stayed in the discussions because they could feel something was going to happen. At the end of the day, my understanding was that this was a compromise document between the Government and the NGOs, so all of it would be carried out. Every word had been pored over, so it wasn’t an aspirational document.

“So we launched it in the National Library and I remember being asked by the press our response to it and I said ‘This is going to be implemented’, but the minister [Frances Fitzgerald] said that it was ‘food for thought’. I knew then this wasn’t going to happen.”

People have been highlighting the private operators making a killing all through this thread.

The problem with the NGO's is they are mostly paid by government funding anyway but presented in the media as do gooders whereas in reality they have skin in the game getting highly paid for extremely cushy jobs doung absolutely nothing.

You think economic migrant is a n insult? The majority of migrants are economic migrants, maybe the young backpackers are an exception.

Also, why do you think only Ukrainians are in need of somewhere safe?

I said several years ago on this site that immigration would become the biggest election issue yet, despite the efforts from those making money from it, chasing the kudos, or just too blind to see muddying it by dragging in other issues and whataboutery. Cause and effect.

This isn't about being right though. It's about the lost opportunity to change course and put a sustainable and fair (to all - not just the new arrivals) means of efficiently processing and deciding upon applications and before they are turned loose on the streets to fend for themselves/for "someone else" to sort out.

But, that ship has sailed, it's too late to turn back now (not that that's even on the agenda for the advocates in and outside of Government) and we're in for a very painful few years despite distraction tactics about a boogey-man "far right", how much money the country supposedly has, FG and their fondness for "feel good" referendums and so on.

Meanwhile the essential services get worse, we'll have an entire generation in 20/30 years who can't afford their private rents when their contracts end at 65, and the social divisions and problems we're seeing in the last few years will increase massively because the only approach being taken is the good ole "Ah shure it'll be GRAND!!" one so beloved of this country and Governments.

I'm afraid it won't "be grand" though - quite the opposite!

Are we just gonna flood the thread with court reports?

What's your point?

So videos, locals and the lord mayor are all lying, made up

Hey don't forget, Irish people don't commit violent crimes on the island of Ireland nor in foreign countries, Violence, danger and sex crimes only started when them there foreigners started coming in, there's bad apples in all walks of life.

I read the court report you posted, what do you think I should think about it? I read court reports all the time. I still dont see your point?

In a much worse state than it was before mass immigration.

Do a Google search and educate yourself.

Yes. Let’s be realistic here it’s probably a conspiracy to destroy the town and the people in the house will likely be military aged males who have come across the seas foaming at the mouth to commit all sorts of deviancy. The only wise course of action now would be to have a protest and scream at them when they arrive — and then ensure to dutifully record and report on every single instance where some foreign fella so much as makes someone feel uncomfortable by his mere presence in the post office.

Am I missing anything?

I see you read part anyway of some of that which I posted myself 2 or 3 days ago.

I made no claiim false or otherwise except that..

The majority of those seeking asylum are classed as refugees, UNTIL PROVEN OTHERWISE.

And what this means has been discussed here quite extensively among posters of different views.

Maybe you should try to read what people actually say and join the discussion instead of targeting posters without reading their posts.

I am sure someone will reply.. Not me however. Bye now.

Would these be the refugees, or those who are 'drafted in' to cause trouble??

Where are the links for these anecdotes?

Are they from dubious sites?