What does the future hold for Donald Trump? - threadbans in OP

Job growth numbers ?

Its hard to keep increasing jobs when you reach 3.5% unemployment which the US did in February 2020, the lowest since December 1969.

Heres another fact for you the U.S. had more job openings than workers to fill them. That was the case for 23 straight months from March 2018 through February 2020.

The labor force participation rate declined, from 65.7% to 62.8%, during Obama’s two terms, under Trump, the rate seemed to stabilize and even ticked upward, reaching a high of 63.4% in January 2020

During Trump’s four years in office, wages went up and inflation remained in check.

Way back in his early days I started a thread on the lines of - 'can we find any positives in Trump as POTUS?' It was a very short thread and quickly died a death.

You had to be asked about half a dozen times to list any faults with Trump. Willing to admit? It had to be dragged out in a post kicking and screaming onto the thread.

You are rewriting history of the thread just as you try to rewrite Trumps over heating of the economy which was unsustainable and due an inevitable over correction.

He has every right to post on here why don't you ask Overheal the same questions on why he posts on here?

He got conservative judges on the bench (it was really McConnell but trump rubber stamped them).

That's pretty much it as far as advantages go. He was a shyster businessman long before politics then became a shyster politician, those who knew him from his business days pretty much knew how his presidency would go (though it was even more farcical).

It's like trying to list the advantages of a fatal disease.

Though there have been a lot of new accounts come in and "don't support trump" but regurgitate all the trump talking points even referring to his crazy truth social posts to do so.

He mocked a disabled person by impersonating them at a rally in front of millions. Choose better heroes to bootlick, there is plenty out there.

1.1 million deaths from Covid in the states. Imagine if he had taken it seriously from the start. There's a lot of blood on that mans hands.

Or literally stealing state supplies to make them beg for them back

More legal woes

https://twitter.com/rgoodlaw/status/1660754248475328515?t=ZxwWeg_-IiL17oBVJECZwg&s=19

Carrol is going to be one wealthy woman.

I'm guessing swampgas' point is that it seems off to intentionally find something nice to say about a guy who has done so much potential damage to the democratic process.

I do however have one nice to thing to say about him. I was impressed how he used mostly just Twitter to promote his campaign. Usually you hear about an insane amount of cash used to run adverts for such things, while Trump managed it with just a phone handset and an essentially free social media app. I felt that was clever.

But that's pretty much as far as I'll go, beyond maybe his belated attempts to encourage his "faithful" to actually take the COVID vaccine, which he wanted to claim credit for, but then got wedged in a wierd idiolical dead-zone where some MAGA folk thought he was betraying them by insiting on taking an important medicine. I felt a little bit sorry for him at that point...a *little bit*....until I remember the rest of it.

He can't be fully compared to Hitler or Stalin, he didn't get a chance to go as far as them. Maybe closer to Mussolini or Tito, but nontheless there are things to compare:

• Much like the Nazi German, he relied upon driving his people into collecive hysteria with grand rallies.
• He delvied into Goebbel's playbook of lying enough until it was the truth.
• He fostered a cult of personality around himself that persists to this day.
• He refused to condemn actual Neo-Nazies, going as far as stating that there were good people "on both sides".
• He encouraged the "othering" of people, infamously starting with people from Muslim states. Who were blanket banned from entering the US for a time.
• He encouraged a monsterous program that stole young children from their families at the border without any plan in place to reunite them later. A good few still have not been reunited with their parents (and might never be).
• He finished things off with his own attempt to "storm the Reichstag". There was even an attempt to blame it all on "Antifa" (another "other", this time a vague alt-left boogieman).

He didn't attempt a genocide, nor did he encrouch on some kind of Sudentenland invasion to trigger a World War, but the ingredients to undermine & replace the norms of Western Democracy with a dictatorship under his name, were there. This is not a man who respects the freedom of people to *not choose him*. He would gladly crown himself King Trump I of America if he had been allowed to, because this was always about him, and his need to feel important, no matter the cost to others.

Politicians are often slimy, distrustful creatures. But there is at least a pretence with most of them that their role is in service of the people, and that they leave when voted out. Trump never seemed to subscribe to that, and mearely muddied the swamp he claimed he would clear.

I think @Rawr nailed it in his response, but to answer slightly differently, I think Trump's personality makes him dangerous. He clearly exhibits the "Dark Triad" set of personality traits: (malignant) narcissism, machiavellianism, and psychopathy. These people can appear confident and strong, which makes them attractive to many, especially to those who can't see past the surface. In my very amateur opinion, anyone who is swayed by Trump or finds him to be a role model is someone who has "fallen under his spell", so to speak, and/or shares some of those same dark triad personality traits with him.

Do you think he admires people like Kim Jong Un and Erdogan for their fashion sense?

I really wish we lived in a world where the ridiculousness of that idea would make it impossible. Alas, I fear it is not. Attempting to disarm it as some kind of silly notion is also doing it service I'm afraid, even if that is not your intention.

Vidulence against those who would take our demoractic freedoms away, is the price of that freedom.