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Giro d'Italia 2023

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    #632
    mr spuckler
    Registered Users Posts: 3,113 ✭✭✭mr spuckler


    Looks like he's given up the ghost, I can't see him anywhere near the front anymore.

    edit...yeah he's gone from the main group so looks like he's going to soldier slowly through this one for the rest of the day. Pinot is in the attack too which is bad news for Healy!



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    #633
    Dodge
    Registered Users Posts: 10,263 ✭✭✭✭Dodge


    He’s in the 3rd or 4th group. Pinot’s jersey to lose now IMO



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    #634
    happytramp
    Registered Users Posts: 2,611 ✭✭✭happytramp


    Looks goosed. Can't have been feeling great.



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    #635
    retalivity
    Registered Users Posts: 14,242 ✭✭✭✭retalivity


    This is carnage already



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    #636
    happytramp
    Registered Users Posts: 2,611 ✭✭✭happytramp


    Kelly not happy with Healy's tactics at all there...



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    #637
    Mefistofelino
    Registered Users Posts: 1,792 ✭✭✭Mefistofelino


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120638746#Comment_120638746

    He's not wrong.



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    #638
    dastardly00
    Registered Users Posts: 13,378 ✭✭✭✭dastardly00


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120638736#Comment_120638736

    I think it's just that he has burned all of his matches. He was attacking non-stop before the climb.



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    #639
    happytramp
    Registered Users Posts: 2,611 ✭✭✭happytramp


    Kind of mad when you think about it....It's the equivalent of the pink jersey wearer repeatedly attacking on the flat only to be dropped by the entire peloton on the first climb and losing the giro.

    Although he'd been saying he hadn't been feeling great the last few days and possibly felt getting in a break was his only chance.



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    #640
    Mefistofelino
    Registered Users Posts: 1,792 ✭✭✭Mefistofelino


    Oh look. Zana has left Eddie on his tod in the GC group. Again.



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    #641
    dastardly00
    Registered Users Posts: 13,378 ✭✭✭✭dastardly00


    40 KOM points for Pinot. Ben Healy still in the lead by 10 points. Long way to go to the next Cat. 1 climb.



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    #642
    odyssey06
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    Anyone see if Ben is still in the Maglia Rosa group or dropped completely?

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



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    #643
    happytramp
    Registered Users Posts: 2,611 ✭✭✭happytramp



    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120638832#Comment_120638832

    Went out the back at the start of the first climb.



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    #644
    Dodge
    Registered Users Posts: 10,263 ✭✭✭✭Dodge


    He’s not a climber. His only chance was to attack and get ahead of the climbers. He tried and it didn’t work. But he wasn’t going to be able to hang on with these either way



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    #645
    Dodge
    Registered Users Posts: 10,263 ✭✭✭✭Dodge


    Set up for a good race later btw. Looking forward to the final 30km



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    #646
    MPFGLB
    Registered Users Posts: 3,254 ✭✭✭MPFGLB


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120638876#Comment_120638876

    Ben is a climber ...maybe not high mountains but not sure as he hasnt targeted them but he can climb very well. Remember he has been riding flat out for several months now

    I think he is a potential GC rider as he has a v good TT but he is better riding as he does now and can go for GC later

    He wasnt second to Pog for no reason



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    #647
    breezy1985
    Registered Users Posts: 25,722 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120638908#Comment_120638908

    The classics are a very different type of climbing though.



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    #648
    Dodge
    Registered Users Posts: 10,263 ✭✭✭✭Dodge


    He’s a climber in the way MVDP is a climber. Big engine, lots of power, can go very well on lots of different terrain

    But when the long steep mountains come in, he’s not there yet. Not even close IMO. If you mention the classics, the steepest one is Flèche and he wasn’t in the top 20.

    I’m not saying he can’t develop into one but he’s already one of the best attacking riders in the peleton. Not being able to do everything at 22 is no shame. Pog and Remco are freaks



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    #649
    MPFGLB
    Registered Users Posts: 3,254 ✭✭✭MPFGLB


    Ben Healy is a very light weight and thus can climb places where MVdP cant really shine


    Plus climbing is climbing and as I said hasn't tested himself in form yet in High Mountains but see no reason why he cant shine there



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    #650
    Brian?
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,189 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120638908#Comment_120638908

    He’s a puncheur, not a real climber.

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




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    #651
    breezy1985
    Registered Users Posts: 25,722 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120639014#Comment_120639014

    Climbing is not climbing in the way you put it.

    GT and classics climbs are different in the sense that one is endurance and the other explosive bursts. Ya he can probably climb better than VdP but he isn't exactly a world beater at GT climbs. Healy is probably closer to being a poor man's Van Aert which is no insult at all.



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    #652
    dastardly00
    Registered Users Posts: 13,378 ✭✭✭✭dastardly00


    Italy is looking might fine today 😎



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    #653
    mewso
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 8,918 Mod ✭✭✭✭mewso


    Worth noting that Pinot will move up in GC today more than likely meaning he won't be allowed in the break tomorrow so if Healy is up for it then he could still get some points tomorrow but as has been said he is not a steady pace climber (yet) so it might be too much. I also think he looks 3 weeks tired rather than just tired from the early effort today.



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    #654
    tawfeeredux
    Registered Users Posts: 795 ✭✭✭tawfeeredux


    Don't know if it's the heat today but watching Hugh Carthy in that EF kit struggling to stay in the GC group reminds me of Wibbly Wobbly Wonders 😁



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    #655
    mewso
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 8,918 Mod ✭✭✭✭mewso


    Almeida dropped. Blimey.



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    #656
    dastardly00
    Registered Users Posts: 13,378 ✭✭✭✭dastardly00


    Eddie doing fantastic



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    #657
    Squidgy Black
    Registered Users Posts: 21,648 ✭✭✭✭Squidgy Black


    Eddie starting to struggle here now, lost the wheel and can’t get back on



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    #658
    dastardly00
    Registered Users Posts: 13,378 ✭✭✭✭dastardly00


    Sepp Kuss is on one of his very good days, in which he's probably the best climber in the race



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    #659
    Squidgy Black
    Registered Users Posts: 21,648 ✭✭✭✭Squidgy Black


    Almeida’s after closing that gap massively now with the descent, Eddie’s a bit further back after jamming the brakes



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    #660
    Squidgy Black
    Registered Users Posts: 21,648 ✭✭✭✭Squidgy Black


    Pinot has to be devastated



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    #661
    retalivity
    Registered Users Posts: 14,242 ✭✭✭✭retalivity


    Ah Thibault!!



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