Mayo GAA Discussion

Not long in the door from Killarney, it's a fair aul spin in one day but it's always easier after a win. Nice town, would have loved to stay for a few pints.

Wasn't confident when the changes were announced beforehand but the three replacements did well and Durcan, Coen, etc were great subs to bring on. Dominated midfield, thought Carney was excellent in the first half in particular - Kerry really missed Moran there. Some great points from both teams.

Off out now to spray paint the sheep

Head to head first. Then points difference if it was a draw.

When will the details of the Louth game be confirmed.

I can't see all 3 on GAA Go. There would be uproar.

He said in interview yday that mgmt had been telling him to take the frees from right hand side and didn't sound like he was mad about the idea, but going OK so far!

yeah but you'd quite possibly be in a 3 way tie then

As I understand if its a 3 way tie then it would go to points difference but a tie between the top two (ie kerry win all their last games and Mayo lose one and win one) would mean Mayo go though on head to head.

Obviously that depends on results in other games but a lot better position than I expected Mayo to be in after this weekend.

Kerry also most likely looking like they play the likes of Galway or Dublin in a qf (if they get through a preliminary qf)

Too early to be predicting exact scenarios but the more i think about it the more important than game in Killarney was.

Didn't get to see the game, was at a family event. Delighted to have been wrong about my concerns for the game. Only seen the highlights but James Carr kicked some great points with both feet. Also very happy to hear that Ruane had a big game, he got a lot of stick during the league (myself included) but he's definitely a player that benefits from the harder running ground later in the year.

Does anyone know if the full match gets made available at any stage?

I am seeing all GAAgo matches over a week old as being available for free so that would mean that the game will be available to stream from next weekend.

Brilliant, thanks

Mayo vs Louth is on Sunday 4th June at 2pm per MayoGaa Twitter.

https://twitter.com/MayoGAA/status/1660693979275378697?s=20

it wasnt specific at all, it was a "but then again it might not" type post, of very little substance. don't forget a week before we lost to roscommon, we comprehensively bet the best galway team of the last 20 years..... and then comprehensively bet the all-Ireland champions. in essence beating the number 1 and number 2 team of last year, as well as beating or drawing every division 1 team in the league. we are exceptionally "in-form"

Yes,very open game and a bit surprised at kerry doing this,a bit of over confidence or disrespect maybe?

Leaving Aido one on one inside was madness on their part,I'd have preferred if we exploited that a bit more.

Mayo will beat most teams in an open game.Mickey Hartes Louth in Machale Park will be interesting.I imagine they'll use the Roscommon blueprint but I think a fresh Mayo at home could cut lose.Im not overly familiar with Corks style of play but having them (presumably) at a bigger hurling pitch like Ennis or Gaelic Grounds surely works to our benefit.

After that it's Croker if everything goes to plan so blankets and shawls are not as easily deployed.

It's certainly heartening to be in a position where we won and still have improvements to make. I definitely think the finishing in front of goal needs a lot of work. Some of the finishing was completely headless. We did well to work the chances, but they need to be buried. I think we had about 5 chances and only scored one of them. On another day, you'd only get one clear cut chance and you have to be putting that away because it could really be the difference between winning and losing. Even the last day, we should have had 2 goals in the first half but missed them. Then Clifford comes out in the second half and is trying really hard to work a goal - if one of those chances had gone in, the game might have had a different complexion and we'd be really regretting those missed shots in the first half, when we should have been out the gap. Winning in the end and finally getting the goal to seal it puts a gloss on it, but it's something that will stay in the back of my head, I reckon.

Think there's a middle ground between both of your views. I would agree that we were less than convincing in both games versus Galway and we can certainly struggle against a blanket defence... But that's what blanket defences are designed to do, to make it hard.

There were other games in the league where came up against packed defences and won.

We obviously prefer open games and tend to struggle a bit more when it's not... But given our forward options and progress / continued expected progress, I wouldn't be making a massive deal about us not be able to break down a blanket defence.

The whole point of the blanket is to frustrate and make it as difficult as possible to score. Teams wouldn't be doing it if it didn't work. Most teams struggle to break it down, that's nothing new. A lot of the discussion around the blanket lately makes it sound like nobody has ever struggled with it before.

They didn't beat Armagh either

I'm sure Mayo didn't throw the Roscommon game, but it seems that the 6 week break really has been a blessing for Mayo. They have had the break, got a chance to get some of the key players towards full fitness (O'Hora, Conroy, Durkan - and Jason Doherty looks like he can still mix it with the best). They have now beaten the supposedly best team in the Group, so have a decent chance of topping the group. Can't take anything for granted of course, but a team like Cork is exactly what Mayo want - not ultra defensive and appears to be mentally fragile and lack of confidence.

Topping the group is a huge bonus going into the quarter final, and they will get that little extra break again. If they get down to the last 8, it's the luck of the draw then - to play who ever comes through from the prelim quarter final play-offs.

do you think if we meet Monaghan, that they'd beat us? they were lucky to scrape a draw if I recall correctly.

Monaghan beat us well in Castlebar, was tight enough but they got a late peno to win by 5 or 6

Definitely "avoidance where possible" for the quarters.

Oddly, it's a slightly different avoidance than the semi-finals has. Semi's avoid any previous Championship meeting where the quarters only hope to avoid Provincial Final and Round One (the group phase) meetings.

https://www.gaa.ie/news/gaa-master-fixtures-for-2023-published/ < Page 22 of the first document there.

"Quarter-Finals

01-02.07.2023 (Sat/Sun)

(Four Games)

The four first-place teams from Round 1 shall be drawn to play against the four Preliminary Quarter-Finals winners, subject in the first instance to the avoidance of repeat Provincial Final pairings and where possible repeat pairings from Round 1.

Semi-Finals

15-16.07.2023 (Sat/Sun)

(Two Games)

The four quarter-final winners shall play against each other in the Semi-Final based on a draw, subject to the avoidance of repeat pairings from the championship, where possible."

We'd still be potentially looking at ~4-6% chance of drawing Kerry in a QFs (assuming both sides win all other games up until then, though those odds could drop depending on what other previous meetings might also be subject to avoidance) but much lower than the ~32% or more we'd have for any other side in the draw.

Wasn’t there something like 10 changes for the Monaghan game from the team that played Donegal the previous game, as well as it being of no consequence to us as we had already qualified for the League Final?.