Succession [HBO] *Spoilers*

I don't think there's anything wrong with obvious, so long as it's done right. I think the surprise may be what Kendall sacrifices in order to end up on top. How badly he screws over the rest of his family in order to get control, how closely he begins to become like Logan, does the cycle begin again or maybe he manages to end up on top but also break the cycle of abuse and do things a different way from Logan.

That episode is a complete stand out in a season of stand out episodes.

Every episode this season has been exceptional.

Not a moment of screen time or dialogue is wasted or indulgent.

So much in this episode that I think i need to watch it again to pick up all the subtleties.

I think Matsson is going to shaft Shiv and the American CEO will be TOM but just never know.

Also fun fact. Sally-Ann, Logan's ex mistress was played by Bran Cox's actual wife Nicole Ansari-Cox. Thought that was funny.

If Greg ends up CEO it would ruin the show tbh. Its entirely unbelievable. Tom or Ken.

With only one episode left, I wonder will they answer all or most of the questions...Who will own Waystar in the end, what happens to Greg, what happens to Shiv...does she become a good mother? Does Roman lose it altogether? What happens to Tom? Do Frank, Karl, Hugo, Gerry stay with Kendall?

Oh the majority of characters are all insufferable c*nts for the most part. They're somewhat based on the Murdoch family after all.

But it's such a sharply written show with terrific performances, and even the most dislikable characters have their moments of vulnerability and sympathy.

It takes a while to get going, as most HBO shows do where they really take their time to build up stories and characters properly, but I think give it until the end of the first season if you can and if you still want to tap out after that, that's fair enough.

Ah, I was exactly where you are back when I watched Season 1. I was really not feeling it after the first few episodes, could not understand why the show was so highly praised - just didn't seem interesting to me and everyone in the show was so toxic that I wasn't sure if I wanted to stick around, but I dunno at what point it turned for me. Some episode around the midway point of the season, I got into a frame of mind of being slightly interested in how the following episode would end and then I got sucked in as the season was coming to its close and by the epic end of season one, I was convinced that, yes, this was the best show on TV.

From about episode 6/7 of season one it goes up a level and it stays there. I wouldn't bail out this early, trust me, it gets better and when it's at its best is equally on par with the greatest TV shows of all time.

I had exactly the same issue as you and stuck with it, it's about at episode 4-5 where the dad comes back from being sick the show takes off. I even had to go back and rewatch the earlier episodes as it took a while to get the humour of it.

A couple of episodes behind, just watched the Election one last night, and got a question.

What is the significance of ATN calling Menchen the winner? Surely it doesn't matter if you call someone a winner if the votes don't go for him?

Was the call made BEFORE all the votes are counted? I'm assuming yes, hence the decision to call it?

But if it works out that he is behind in votes, then it makes ATN look bad for calling it wrong?

Because there was an election polling centre attacked and votes lost (one in a place where the vote was likely to be tight), ATN calling it for Mencken allowed him to claim that he won, because it could be weeks, if not months, before a definitive result could be found, if ever.

It makes him the presumptive winner and claim victory, and puts all the pressure on the Democrat to challenge the result.

Don't like that Menchen character. Seems arrogant and obnoxious. He had no sympathy for Romans attempt at a eulogy. Called him the grim reaper. A bit harsh

Stuck the landing. Terrific finale.

The three kids were all useless in the end but Kendall is the biggest baby. I enjoyed the ending though could have watched another season. I was still interested in where the characters would go after this.

She ends up with a man that betrayed her twice and he has most of the power in the relationship now (though she does have some leverage with the baby). They did look miserable at the end, her and Tom. I think she made the right decision in the end and Roman was supporting her seeing how mad Kendall really is.

well after tom reveals he's the guy she knows that's the horse to back rather then kendall and tom also bets he can turn her after the phone conversation she has with him after asking about their feeling earlier in the episode

Mathsen will think he can control both

Did I hear right that Conor is moving to Slovenia while Willa stays in the US?

I also love how although some were theorising that Greg could end up on top (and I can see why even though I really hoped he wouldn't), Tom putting the sticker on Greg's forehead has put Greg possibly even lower than he was in Season 1; he's nothing more than a piece of furniture now to Tom like the guy Tom used as a footstool. As much satisfaction and catharsis as there was when Greg finally slapped Tom back in the bathroom, Greg was always a slimy f*ck.

Tom might not treat him quite so overtly badly as I think ultimately he does like having Greg around in many ways, but Greg is now completely beholden to Tom.

The fact that Kendall denied being involved in the death of the waiter just to get his own way, proves that he doesn't deserve it.

The only one I truly felt who “won” was Roman. He never really wanted to be CEO, he finally confirmed it in the meeting room with Kendall. He’s finally free of the family drama and now he’s even more disgustingly rich on top of it all. Hard to know what he’d end up doing next but he finally has some bit of freedom.

Also very interesting that the closing shot of him is a little smile while drinking Gerri’s favourite, a dirty martini.

Yes, I think Tom certainly thinks he has won and that he is now ranked above Shiv so to speak. He is not just known as the husband of Shiv Roy anymore. I think that's why he put his hand out for her to hold to let her know he is now on top.