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Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings and threadbans - updated 11/5/24*

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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,236 ✭✭✭Patrick2010


    Yeah, theres no point in complaining. Almost every politician is reading from the same script "we have a duty and a legal obligation to look after these people fleeing war and famine ", never a mention of economic migrants. They are never asked is there nowhere else in the whole of Africa they could move to.

    Ciaran Cuddihy on Newstalk yesterday said he went to talk to protestors in Santry and came back telling stories of how he was told this was part of the great reset, that Covid was a hoax designed to kill off the indigenous population and replace them with immigrants. I saw interviews with Santry protestors who in the main were middle aged women who expressed legitimate fears of placing 300 men in a small community. Must have been off when Ciaran called and the crazies were on shift?

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  • Registered Users Posts: 172 ✭✭Honesty Policy


    Who made those politicians God to make those decisions? It sounds like they want to get annihilated at the next election.

    They literally couldn't organise their way of a brown paper bag. Well unless there was money at the end of it.



  • Registered Users Posts: 16,269 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    Like Greens flying all over the world on St paddys day junkets, a disconnect from their own rhetoric when it suits.



  • Registered Users Posts: 277 ✭✭Guildenstern


    I wonder if by supporting a tougher stance on immigration from now could get SF the further support it needs to be able to sweep in on close to 40% rather than the 31/32 they are hovering around at. That's bordering on sole government territory.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,032 ✭✭✭dmakc


    Joe O'Brien's comments are frightening. How did this country ever let the Greens come to power. The far-right angle taken by media heads is also mind-numbing. People talk about integrating IPA's into our culture, at this rate in two generations time it will be their culture that has to integrate us.

    I haven't heard anyone ask where do IPA's 'graduate' to when asylum is approved - do they stay in the 'temporary' accommodation, rent, or get on the housing ladder? How many jobs are going in places like Inch for them? Think I read statistics that only 10% of rejections are followed through? What about the 1,000+ torn up passports? The 20+ family members asylum clause?

    Population explosion was always going to be a problem here considering strain on services and housing, why are the leaders exasperating the problem?



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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,954 ✭✭✭.Donegal.


    Leaving the eu to control immigration is working out well for the Brits ha

    Net migration rose to 606,000 in the year to December 2022, official statistics show.

    The figure overtakes the previous post-war high of 504,000 in the year to June last year - and comes despite a Tory 2019 manifesto commitment to "bring overall numbers down".

    Net migration is the annual number of people arriving in the UK when both immigration and emigration are taken into account.

    The figures, published by the Office for National Statistics (ONS) this morning, show that total long-term immigration was estimated at around 1.2 million in 2022, while emigration was 557,000.

    Most people arriving in the UK last year were non-EU nationals (925,000), followed by EU (151,000) and British (88,000), the ONS said.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,729 ✭✭✭ShamNNspace


    The GP just doin what they said they would do, "bringing people in AS refugees in scale"



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,815 ✭✭✭Backstreet Moyes


    It's like all government policies they contradict each other.

    We need to cut out carbon footprint and be a leader while increasing the population and increasing our carbon footprint.

    We need to build more houses while allowing more people into the country than we can possibly house.

    We need hate speech legislation to protect minorities, while encouraging people from countries where these minorities are treated like dirt and jailed in cases for how they live there life.

    We have progressed so much as a country in the past 20 or 30 years and now we are importing people who have the attitude towards minorities that we have moved on from.

    Everything they are doing makes little to no sense.



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,119 ✭✭✭suvigirl


    Surely if Ireland is full it's time to start withdrawing visas?

    I mean if we can't house our own.....surely we shouldn't be taking in people from any countries?

    There wasn't a massive housing issue in the 80s



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,236 ✭✭✭Patrick2010


    No one has a problem with immigrants coming here through the proper channels with work visas. The reason there wasn't a housing crisis in the eighties was because illegal immigration was a fraction of what it is now.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,408 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    He blatantly lied when saying most applicants who are served with deportation orders go home.


    Complete lies which I was hoping Pat would pull him up on which he didn’t.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,283 ✭✭✭bloopy


    The right wing conspiracy angle is just a cuntinuation of the tactics used during covid.

    Get people distracted, riled up and foaming at the mouth at the bogeyman and you can just continue doing whatever you want.

    I mean they've already started to shift the blame for the almighty mess they've created onto an almost mythical far right.

    The protests, anger and intimidation are a result of the mess they have made, not the cause.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,236 ✭✭✭Patrick2010


    Imagine they're from ex British colonies who are allowed in.



  • Registered Users Posts: 277 ✭✭Guildenstern


    Plus we hear they are moving into that centre? Nothing at all would surprise me with politicians the size of egos as big as New York.

    If Peadar carries on in this vein, his 1% will shoot up quick enough.



  • Registered Users Posts: 9,315 ✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    They won't be able to stop the migrations and it will only get worse. The migrants will be able to move freely into Ireland too. The UK will have to cooperate with the EU to formulate a policy and plan to cope.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • Registered Users Posts: 259 ✭✭pauly58


    Interestingly in the UK figures, they have taken 114,000 Ukrainians, doesn't sound very high compared to us.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,464 ✭✭✭rgossip30


    Still no link for your claim ''Irish people did not wan t those houses '' .



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,119 ✭✭✭suvigirl


    Illegal immigration isn't causing aa housing crisis. How many illegal immigrants do you think are in Ireland?

    There wasn't a housing crisis in the 80s because nobody wanted to come here. Ireland was just full of Irish. That's the way we should go......



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,236 ✭✭✭Patrick2010


    France took in 140k apparently, way less than us per head of population.



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,119 ✭✭✭suvigirl


    But they're the ones taking the houses!

    Refugees and asylum seekers are being housed in hotels, old office buildings, old barracks,old schools etc sure they're not taking our houses!

    Nope. Send all the people living here from the EU and who have visas, home to their own countries. Then there will be plenty of houses for Irish people.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,464 ✭✭✭rgossip30


    Put another way . The large number of refugees/asylum seekers coming requiring accommodation and welfare , so the money goes in that direction ..



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,602 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    Was saying something else on TWIP on Sunday .

    Obviously had to consult with his other party members before saying something else .......😊



  • Registered Users Posts: 323 ✭✭sonar44



    I wonder if we would be completely alone in the world if we thought housing, especially social, should, maybe, be for our own, first.

    It's just a discussion. Something more important is bound to come along.



  • Registered Users Posts: 18,657 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Governments are generally not responsible for causing the size of the population to grow. It's usually out of their control and will grow or decline for a wide variety of reasons.

    When the population starts to fall or population growth begins to slow dramatically, it is nearly always bad news. It invariably indicates that recession has set in or the country is going through a very rough patch. It happened in Ireland between 2010 and 2015, coinciding with the aftermath of the crash and the Troika bailout.



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,602 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    Think you don't understand either me or the post if you think I am far left /s.

    And if that is what you got from that very detailed post you really need to read a bit more .

    But I suppose to those who are far right anyone remotely left of centre must be " far " left .

    (Not saying you are as I have never read a post from you before this one )

    Anyway am not going to explain to you now as that was being discussed a few days ago do I suggest you go back and read the thread instead of taking my post entirely out of context.



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,602 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    Emigration was higher in the 80s . No work, nobody could afford to buy a pint or a pair of shoes, never mind a house!



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,602 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    You've hit the nail on the head there ...:)

    But yes it doesn't make sense .

    Why are you arguing against refugees coming from , as you say in your post " countries where these minorities are treated like dirt and jailed in cases for how they live their life " ?

    How do you know they have those attitudes , or are not themselves fleeing from that type of environment??

    That is exactly what asylum seekers who are not fleeing from war are claiming .

    So how, if you know their home country is like that , do you not understand why they are fleeing ?

    No sense indeed .



  • Registered Users Posts: 9,274 ✭✭✭pgj2015


    because boards is there to post on. bus all day working, not spewing hate on here all day like others.



  • Registered Users Posts: 624 ✭✭✭Mullaghteelin


    I briefly flirted with the Socialist Workers Party in the late 90s. Even back then, Nazis were everywhere apparently. Nazis making a comeback was as certain as the Worker's revolution that was about to happen any day.

    I thought they were nuts.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,954 ✭✭✭.Donegal.


    Not sure but I did just see on the news that 50,000 more eu citizens left than came in. So in essence leaving the eu meant less eu citizens and more from the rest of the world in the Uk.



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