Trubridy’s Final Late Late Show EVAH! Special Thread 26th May

mickdw · 27-05-2023 8:15am

Very poor show. Nobody of note. Of course the troop of rte talent that might be expected to pop in to a show like this were probably all banned by NK management seeing as the new host wasn't picked from one of his membership.

Bigus · 27-05-2023 8:16am

Kielty should ban all charity appeals for a start,the late late turned into a Joe Duffy moan fest lately, there’s more to Ireland than dying people and unfortunate youngs wans .

HBC08 · 27-05-2023 8:26am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120645154#Comment_120645154

This is the quandary.

Tubridys failings are well covered in these threads and I wholeheartedly agree with all of them,he's simply terrible on so many levels.

I stopped watching the show a few years ago but would read the thread, catch the odd bit of a show and watch the toy show.

When I saw Saoirse Ruane last night describe her recent bad news as " a bump in the road" I started crying.A kid who has been dealt such a sh1t hand in life gushing and smiling about her trip to Disney and so delighted to be on the Late late again.

If you're cynical about that then you don't have a heart, therein lies the problem. At what point do you separate the story from the emotional manipulation? The same gravity is given to an canteen celebrity's sick aunt or Michael Ds dead dog.

Its all very weird and thankfully behind us now.Keilty will be a great host in my opinion, the fact that RTE got him by default further shows their ineptitude but I don't see that changing any time soon.

Best of luck to Patrick Kielty,I think we might get a light entertainment show on fri nights,I'd be happy enough with that.

AndrewJRenko · 27-05-2023 8:46am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120646191#Comment_120646191

Maybe he should start asking politicians why essential services are dependent on charity appeals?

deezell · 27-05-2023 9:00am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120646223#Comment_120646223

That'd be a job for the disco queens on primetime.

Field east · 27-05-2023 9:04am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120644834#Comment_120644834

RT tried to get Ml D to comment , I think, three times on the Inch situation and the burning of the tents in Dublin. Ml D skirted it on all occasions. It stuck out like a sore thumb . I was very surprised because all the points for discussion are agreed beforehand

27-05-2023 9:27am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120646025#Comment_120646025

Hopefully 🤞🏾

valoren · 27-05-2023 9:31am

The first five/ten minutes of the show summed it all up. The Tubridy interview with Michael D. You'd think with such advance notice he might have actually attended the show. The actual live audience were left waiting in the studio as the pre-recorded interview is shown and of all things, during what should have a celebratory vibe, they talk about the Famine.

I think even in his last show he still had the ability to make you feel like he was still getting the hang of it all whereas with Kielty he'll be a few weeks in and the feeling will be as if he's at such ease with it that you'd think he has been doing it for years.

27-05-2023 9:38am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120646223#Comment_120646223

I remember years ago a foreign person from some other EU country remarking how remarkably charitable Irish people are, and how great that was, comparing it to their own country where they remarked that their government was required to provide those services as the people wouldn’t likely volunteer to pay for them straight out of pocket.

squonk · 27-05-2023 9:40am

Didn’t watch but I’m worried for PK now. RT’s last show so you’d think the boat would be pushed out a bit. Nah. Recorded interview with Miggledee and a recorded “hullo” from Macca. I thought I’d be a victory lap with a few regulars on for the ‘craic’ and a surprise or two, but they talked about the famine? At this rate PK’s tenure could be a one liner on his cv because the job was so shît he just about wants to say he worked there to fill out the timeline.

WheelieKing · 27-05-2023 9:40am

Fcuk... I thought it was the final late late ever and ive just realised they are hiring another presenter 😮

SimpleDimple · 27-05-2023 9:48am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120646339#Comment_120646339

It sounds like that person came from a country where the government actually funded these services properly so and the public didn’t have to rely on the charity of others to foot the bill

Furze99 · 27-05-2023 10:04am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120646344#Comment_120646344

LOL,, you don't get away that easy from RTE's clutching at straws! I suppose fair dues to Tubridy for milking the system for so many years and getting away with it. Off ye toddle now and give up the radio as well, the stage awaits with the Real Toyman Show.

It's telling that Claire Byrne turned it down - she could see the obvious headlines ahead 'It all started on the LLS with a Byrne and it all ended on the LLS with a Byrne' :)

Trondheim · 27-05-2023 10:17am

In many ways it is the appropriate final show for Tubridy's run. Big nod to the toy-show which was the one area where he was successful.

Loads of misery p0rn, which he loves, and presumably some of his viewers must also go for it.

Almost no celebrity guests, and those that were came in by video. Which really reflects the current reality. Who is going to travel to Ireland on a Friday night to do a show with an audience of a few hundred thousand? Even Graham Norton, in London, records his show on a midweek afternoon.

And money issues. They still ran the competition. You would think RTE could have freed him from the need to run the comp on the last show. Clearly no money invested in the last show. RTE seem to view it as a money-making task, and everything else is secondary to that for the LLS. So need to make money (long duration to get lots of advertising, run the competition etc.), and spend as little as possible.

For PK, hopefully they will give him some freedom in the format, guests etc. He will need to have that agreed before signing the contract, as that is his time of maximum leverage. Everything should be on the table. Does it need to be live, does it need to be 2.5 hours, etc. etc. Does it always need to be filmed in Ireland - could they do a show from London, a show from Berlin, a show from Paris? At the moment, the format seems like a straight-jacket. It is immovable, and everything has to fit around it. The format didn't come from the sky on tablets of stone. It was developed by Gay Byrne back in the day and matched the society of the time, but if the a new show was being designed now, they wouldn't have it like the current LLS.

He will also need them to invest a bit of money in it. You can see with DWTS that if RTE invest a bit of money, they get the rewards in terms of viewership, but they always seem so reluctant to invest. Fingers crossed for PK.

I wouldn't pay any attention to the nonsense about Kielty being out of touch because he is in UK the rest of the week, but there is a risk that he will have less influence over the show because the crew are in Montrose working through plans all week and he is over in London. It is harder to have influence (over RTE management, over the production team) via zoom than in person.

techman1 · 27-05-2023 10:24am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120646073#Comment_120646073

well obviously stephanie preissner et al want to talk about their pet subjects, the last time she was talking mostly about her baby, Tubridy let her indulge in that for most of the slot so she is in her comfort zone, Kielty being a comedian might crack a joke and pull it out of that so she is out of her comfort zone into another area where she might say something silly or controversial because she wasn't expecting the conversation to go there. Thats what Gay Byrne used to do, Padraig Flynn never expected to be talking about his 3 houses and 2 housekeepers that famous night but Gay brought the conversation there. Therefore there will be more at risk for the z listers because Kielty is smart and experienced

mistersifter · 27-05-2023 10:32am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120646079#Comment_120646079

Not sure if @NIMAN was referring to my post from the radio thread. Maybe it was predicted by a few people - Tubridy already has a Vespa and he's often seen scooting around Dalkey (nice day for it today, as luck would have it!)

He didn't seem too excited about it though - maybe he was expecting a more expensive model or wanted the lads to fly home to give it to him in person 😝

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058149307/rte-radio-1-the-ryan-tubridy-show#latest

27-05-2023 10:36am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120646325#Comment_120646325

Michael D should have talked about television & LLS in Ireland, how it shaped change and progression in face of some opposition from state, how under DG Tom Hardiman it became an independent station and formed part of the progression of our democracy. Recollection of sone uplifting moments. Ryan being part of that, Kielty to carry it forward. That would have been relevant and appropriate for the show. In studio of course.

27-05-2023 10:52am

https://www.independent.ie/entertainment/television/tv-news/ann-marie-hourihane-ryan-tubridys-last-hurrah-showed-exactly-why-the-late-late-show-needs-a-major-reboot/a553468391.html

Ann Marie Hourihane almost nailed it, except she didn’t explicitly mention the lack of real celebrities present.

Ghost Train · 27-05-2023 11:18am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120646258#Comment_120646258

I think Michael D because of his position can't be critical of the government, so is going to avoid getting drawn into comment on incidents by a small minority, he did say it was shocking or something but quickly brought it back to talking about the irish people in general

Hopefully there will be more of an edge to the show, with the new host

NIMAN · 27-05-2023 11:29am

There seems to be some sort of conspiracy at play here re: the reviews of last nights show.

I have heard a few good ones now. On the start of the BOC radio show, apparently The Examiner said it was an all singing, all dancing finale.

Now unless they have a different definition to me to what that term means, it was miles away from all singing and all dancing. It was generally a bore fest. Few could deny that. Talking about the famine, catching up with sick kids, chatting to a terminally ill man, chatting to a comedian about his depression. All singing and all dancing? Come on now. Either these pieces were written before the show even started, or else NKM wrote them. I wouldn't be surprised if it's the latter.

And as for Ryan saying during the week he wanted it to be a celebration of all things irish. This had to be done as he obviously knew the makeup of the show. You honestly think if Tom Cruise, Tom Hanks, Ed Sheeran, Coldplay, Sam Smith etc wanted to turn up, they'd have been told "naw you're alright, we are celebrating irishness"? Come on now. They couldn't even get irish stars to show up ffs. No Colin Farrell, brendan gleeson, dermot Kennedy, christy Moore to name but a few. Just the usual suspects who are never off.

It was a sh1tshow, let's be honest but in the keeping of Tubs style, I.e. misery and more misery. It was real life David Brent. Throw a big party expecting all your 'mates' to come, but none of them do, cos they don't really like you and couldn't be bothered to make the effort. I have no doubt the production crew made efforts to try to get a better guest list, but it was probably like trying to push water uphill, such is the man's attraction. That's why it ended up full of people who weren't going to say no.

techman1 · 27-05-2023 11:35am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120646532#Comment_120646532

That was interesting alright even when Tubridy tried to link the migrant issue now to the famine , Michael D did not go there, he pulled the conversation out of that. We know he likes to court controversy ,for example by going against the government by not attending the ceremony in Armagh for the centenary of Northern Ireland.

That must show that the government is under severe pressure over the migration issue now and Michael D is steering well clear of it even though he would be coming at it from a left wing perspective, he baulked at linking it to the famine and did not take the bait

Oscar_Madison · 27-05-2023 11:37am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120646559#Comment_120646559

I dunno - I see where you’re coming from but I think it’s a bit harsh - had A listers all appeared either in person or remotely, we’d be criticising that too. I think Ryan just decided to do things his way and mostly place the ordinary people and the toy show kids at the heart of it- in fairness whether we liked it or not, that was essentially TLLS for the last number of years- misery slots, raising money for charity and toy shows without toys- it was a bore fest overall but it was his bore fest.

NIMAN · 27-05-2023 11:39am

Did you think it was all singing, all dancing? Why would any reputable journo write such lies?

I have no problem talking to all the kids, they generally make TLLS better when they are on. I understood that. But why have a chat to the President about the famine and homelessness? On a celebration show of all things. I'll tell you why, cos MDH rarely turns down an interview when he can get to waffle.

Hotblack Desiato · 27-05-2023 11:59am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120645242#Comment_120645242

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-Nz9sBjs3o

"Get Laid With Bord Na Móna"

deezell · 27-05-2023 12:23pm

What does EVAH! In the thread title stand for btw.

martingriff · 27-05-2023 12:34pm

I have to say I agree with everyone here is was the a forgettable last show maybe the toy show bit which may have been Tubrity idea.

Why oh why if he is so big so sick did they bring Charlie Bird in to the studio and have him standing there at the end. On video would have been good.

The best for celebrity they could do was a drunk Bono, a disinterested Edge and Paul McCartney reading from the prompter, Seoirse Ronan who I think they actually get on

As other have pointed out no one from RTE on is MK really that p*%%*d.

So did RTE not have the money or did they not give 1 flying f.

AndrewJRenko · 27-05-2023 12:39pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120646423#Comment_120646423

Wasn’t it a question from an audience member that brought Flynn there?

27-05-2023 12:46pm

It was a bit odd that Pat Kenny didn’t make an appearance in one form or another, he being the previous host of the show.

NormanNicetouch · 27-05-2023 12:53pm

From an insider. The programme TAMS had collapsed to an unacceptable level for any advertiser. Gone from 700k when he started to 350k now mainly elderly 65+. RTE wishes you well getting adverts on the BBC.

27-05-2023 12:58pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120646743#Comment_120646743

So he was encouraged to leave the show. At the same time the production was equally at fault. I wonder if they will change the team.

Edit - I see the current production team gave hit the boot

https://www.thesun.ie/tv/10579207/rte-late-late-show-shock-new-shake-up-battle/

AndrewJRenko · 27-05-2023 1:01pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120646251#Comment_120646251

They’re not the ones doing the “sure aren’t we great raising de money for de sick kids for de charidee” schtik. That’s the LLS, that is.

Shakyfan · 27-05-2023 3:07pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120646761#Comment_120646761

"It’s my guess that RTE will let Ryan depart in a blaze of glory and won’t announce his successor until after Ryan is gone."

They got that slightly wrong!

Hotblack Desiato · 27-05-2023 3:14pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120645651#Comment_120645651

"Here it is Ryan, a Vespa, now you can rev up and f**k off"

deezell · 27-05-2023 3:42pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120646743#Comment_120646743

"Gone from 700k when he started to 350k now mainly elderly 65+"

...Who spend SFA on what's in the ads!👴👵.

walshb · 27-05-2023 4:41pm

Last night’s show as an ego tripping self-indulgent borefest.

27-05-2023 4:58pm

NK must be absolutely fuming, champagne gone back into the cellar.

deezell · 27-05-2023 5:13pm

Headline in the Sun online,

"RTE star Ryan Tubridy pays tribute to Vicky Phelan as her sister gives family update on Late Late Show"

For his retirement party? Was this one of his career highlights? His big achievement?

We buried three family members in quick succession in recent years. If someone asked me for an 'update', what do you say? "Em, they're all still dead afaik". Tubridy is a Fking morbid ghoul. Leave her family alone.

NIMAN · 27-05-2023 5:31pm

"We are all still devastated".

He has built a part of his persona off other people's illnesses, life obstacles and deaths.

LambshankRedemption · 27-05-2023 6:20pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120646581#Comment_120646581

Im with you and yes I read something similar in the Irish Independent. All singing, all dancing. I thought, were we both watching the same program?

The kids were great and saved it to be honest, but a 20 minute dialogue with the president about the famine to kick start your farewell show is not exactly synonomous with all singing, all dancing.

I wonder did these journo's assume it would be like the Toy Show but slightly subdued, and so instead of watching it, they went out on the pull instead.

Oscar_Madison · 27-05-2023 6:27pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120646761#Comment_120646761

An RTE insider told us: “People hate change. Whoever gets the Late Late job is going to get a bad hiding for the first few months.

Total and utter bolllox- you couldn’t get a worse programme structure right now if you tried- there’s been dozens of people on boards crying out for “change” for the last 10 years - bring it on it couldn’t come fcking any sooner

Allinall · 27-05-2023 6:30pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120647724#Comment_120647724

Dozens of people on boards lol

What about the hundreds of thousands of people that watch and enjoy the show?

27-05-2023 7:00pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120646692#Comment_120646692

Paul McCartney hates fanboyism 😂

27-05-2023 7:00pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120647744#Comment_120647744

They’d enjoy any late late show

27-05-2023 7:11pm

When’s tubs was announced as presenter it was all bravado and the old days are gone and he was going to change it up and bring in the American influence, the same week Ian Dempsey said in the evening herald that tubs would be found out.

now if you look at his departure, they’re not focusing on success and the change he brought, over the last few seasons all they had left was being kind hearted and kids . Nothing wrong with either of course but it’s to take our eyes off failure

Oscar_Madison · 27-05-2023 7:34pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120647744#Comment_120647744

What about the millions who don’t?Commentators on boards are representative of a certain % of the population as are those on Twitter and other social media- the comments on all social media for years hasn’t been good on TLLS for many years now- it’s no laughing matter for the people in RTÉ who have to convince the advertisers to support the show- especially since the average viewers age is well into the 60s at this stage.

So less of the haw haw- the fact that anyone on boards watches TLLS is actually a bonus for RTÉ especially as viewership has taken a dive

Allinall · 27-05-2023 7:36pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120648000#Comment_120648000

They don’t count.

Millions of people don’t like cricket , and they have zero effect on the sport.

Oscar_Madison · 27-05-2023 7:42pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120647886#Comment_120647886

Interesting view- can’t say I disagree either- don’t suppose there’s a link to that article at this stage? It would be fascinating to read it now it’s all over.

Oscar_Madison · 27-05-2023 7:44pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120648018#Comment_120648018

Great- you should head up the marketing folk for TLLS so- I reckon they could do with some positivity- even if it’s based on a decreasing aging viewership who are worth feic all to advertisers at prime time viewing slots - do you have any idea at all how money generating tv works?

27-05-2023 9:34pm

It’s all very easy to be kind hearted and lovely to other people’s kids who are subdued with the traumas of illness and isolation. It’s who stays the course and stands by through thick and thin, cancels other plans to be at the side of those in need, that’s what counts imo.

deezell · 28-05-2023 7:49am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120648489#Comment_120648489

Yes, we all know the person who turns up at your Family funeral, has the most to say, lets all and sundry know how 'devastated' they are, wants to be the chief mourner. They were barely acquainted with the deceased, but will act like they were bffs. Those types are rarer these days, but they exist. In my experience those actually closest just close down for a while, quietly coping, pass through the 5 stages of bereavement, re-emerge, and get on with it. A bit different as a person maybe, but not this 'faux traumatised' that tubs portrays. That's not empathy, that's attention seeking.

Trubridy’s Final Late Late Show EVAH! Special Thread 26th May

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