Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings and threadbans - updated 11/5/24*

Impossible to predict if and when it will happen but I suspect a sharp turn to the right could happen fast. If it happens in Germany then I think most of the rest of Europe will row in behind that straight away. I would not rule it out because of Germanys history as they could name it and package it in a different way. An economic crisis in Germany could trigger it. Ireland of course would be appalled at first but would quickly align as being subservient is in our DNA.

unless that disturbing scenario happens then it’s permanent large scale influx of migrants, our politicians have already made that clear.

I agree with all you say to start but then you go down the route of saying vote far right!

Of course SinnFein or Labour will moderate their stance as will the other parties if they see popular opinion against them.

But voting far right causes more damage than sllowing this situation to develop.

What other policies would they bring?

Anti Abortion, anti same sex marriage anti eqquality, anti gay, even anti contraception?

Anti every freedom, so you swap one ptoblem for many mote.

I have lived under that sort of archaic regime when the Church ruled even over the government of the day.in the 70s and 80s.

It was a horrible country and a horrible way to exist.

Its not an option.

Anyone proposing far right now is either very young and needs to read a bit of history, or one of those themselves.

Even proposing it in jest or in debate does nothing except fuel the propaganda.

So on this note Blueskydreams, I am out. 😐

But that is the point . Is that the case or is it that this thread and other social media is making us think that ?

If the majority of Irish people were feeling this way where are the marches to the Dáil ?

All we are seeing is our own bubble here and a few protests at refugee centres .

People don't need the main parties to mobilise when they feel strongly about something . We have shown that time and again .

Having said that I would be loathe to go on a march that had anything to do with some of the far right nutjobs , as I think would a lot of people with centrist or left of centre views .

They haven't in fact. They passed legislation a couple of years ago saying they would become much more robust on asylum seekers and start deporting them but they don't appear to have deported anyone (and are still accepting refugees). There has already been a change of government since then.

It seems to have been mostly hot air and populist stuff with them, a la our Brexit friends in the UK, not a serious immigration policy.

Have looked at social media about these protests recently , some make my skin crawl but others made me laugh .

There is a clip on Reddit about a guy with a delivery van telling the protestors who numbered about 5 blonde women with dry robes on and a couple of men with baseball caps, " can you not find a patch of grass to go drinking cans on ?". They called him all sorts and blocked his legal entry to the Industrial Estate, asking him what his business was !

Now I am all for peaceful protest but this is not that .

The comments beneath were hilarious .

I won't repeat but suffice to say they did not think these people need worry about what was happening to THEIR tax money , lol .

The same crowd were filming last night when the gardaí came in with two buses of asylum seekers AND OVERTURNED THEIR GAZEBO! Oh they were in tears, or so they said . Couldn't see their tear stained faces , as they had the camera on the police who appeared more civil than they had been to the man in the van . But they were wailing " What are you doing to us?"

Said they had built up a rapport with the gardaí and didn't expect that .

One wonders did they expect the gardaí to leave their gazebo blocking the roads and footpath ?

These were not locals btw .

Yes would be wary of some protesting alright .

As to the rest of the political establishment I remain to be convinced that there is a majority of the population feeling so strongly about this except for those posting , that it will rock them into changing radically .

Not yet anyway .

Lobby your local rep if you want change .

I'd imagine the response will be on how to avoid polls like that being offered

Open borders, allow everyone in?

I usually listen to Sunshine radio on Sunday morning, but I'm curious how or if Brendan O'Connor and Newstalk discuss this poll. I might switch the dial.

This was the Danes experience of the Syrians. They would not return after it became safe to do so.

It was also sold as a temporary solution at the outset but in practice it wasn't.

As for the rest of the international protection applicants they won't go home ever since in many cases there was never even a war in the first place.

That Sunday Business Post poll is on the money. Common sense has been lost amongst the voices of the far left and far right.

3/4 saying we are taking in too many refugees.

Middle income/professional Ireland is saying enough is enough with this madness. It's utterly stupid and self capitulation. If there was a plan, it would be fine. There is not. Just enrichment of party donors and the connected.

We have a tiny population, the change will be felt much more than France or the UK. We seen the issues there in areas, we could have learned from it and put a sensible policy and plans in place.

The damage is done. Fine Gael - never again. **** clown show across every portfolio. No wonder the rats are abandoning ship.