Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings and threadbans - updated 11/5/24*

And yet you thanked a post when all it said was you wouldn't want asylum seekers moving in next door to your daughter.

That doesn't say anything about worries over the amount of people coming in, but says plenty about prejudices.

It's actually amazing that this is still going on, on boards. Years ago there were posters showing up on threads about migrants, throwing in little soundbites and slogans, things like

'you wouldn't want an asylum seeker moving in next to your daughter '

Little sentences, promoting prejudices, subtle references to foreigners being criminals etc. It was very obvs what they were doing & when called out, they would close their account, another one opening shortly after. I had thought that type of thing would have been stamped out, but I'm back some years later, and they are still doing it. There's a lot more people thanking these bot accounts now though, worryingly.

Ah but you can say that about most major cities in the world! Of course there are dodgy areas, I mean look at the north inner city of Dublin, it's dodgy AF.

But there are posters implying that cities are now **** holes because of immigration! All cities have and have had dodgy areas.

Yes there are issues and yes other cities have them too, perhaps you just haven't seen as much of other cities?

And I disagree that it is down to immigration, as such, it is down to social policy and leaving certain sections of society behind. If you leave people (of any nationality) with basically nothing and no hope of improving their lives, then discontent spreads, crime increases etc etc.

Just dumping large amounts of anyone in suburbs of big cities, with no forward planning is never a good idea (ballymun, neilstown etc anyone)

I lived in Paris for a few years — what do you mean by "dodgy"? Paris is one of the most visited cities on the planet and crime centering around tourist areas, mostly pickpocketing, is always going to be a problem. People just seem to see new demographics and presume those demographics created whatever problem it is they are talking about.

Refugees make no impact on housing - sure thing golden girl!

53% of those on HAP in Longford non-irish, keep em coming. We'll get to the bottom of the 'housing crisis' someday! In the meantime throw another few billion at it Leo n Michael!

https://gript.ie/53-of-hap-recipients-in-longford-are-non-irish-figures-show/

That's why I suggested earlier that small towns and villages are the perfect place for refugees.

Much easier for them to integrate (if they wish to) easier to get to know people and get involved.

There are small schools around the country staying open now because of the new influx of kids, whereas the numbers were dwindling previously. Putting a bit of life back into these towns and villages can only be good for them

Agree 100%. Very good post.

I was surprised to see the SBP poll - not the results, but the fact it happened at all

The last 3 polls, VM tonight show, The IT and now SBP - The average across the three is 83% against the current policy. That's pretty definitive and takes any margin of error, snapshot in time arguments completely out of the equation.

I remember during the pandemic, the ESRI were on radio/tv panels talking about the public's behavioural reactions and attitudes as the various stages of the crises unfolded - that's what the ESRI do and they're very good at it. Think of them as entomologists studying an ant colony (us)

Time and time again, during the many appearances on these panels, the ESRI said the people were way ahead of the Govt during the various phases - masks on/off, lock down/open up, etc etc. It turns out the people were correct. The hive mind is very powerful

MoS, Joe O'Brien, was on the radio with Gav Reilly yesterday and was asked about the SBP poll. All he had was, 'It was the way the questions were asked/worded in the poll' - seriously Joe, if that's the best you can do, feck off will ya. Talk about flailing about for an answer. What he could've said is, 'Yes Gavan, this doesn't look good at all, we have made a complete balls of it'

In other great news, McEntee is due back this week and as she is utterly out of her depth, expect nothing

Its not exactly main news.

The reason its about Longford is that is local head quarters to the National Party.

Do you go to many football matches? Ever attend matches in England or Scotland where hooliganism was more or less a cultural meme back in the old Utopian days? But yes, violence and a sinister atmosphere around football matches is a cultural creation of African and Arab migrants in Paris.

We are off topic here but saying that the area around the Stade de France "resembled a war zone from a poor African country" is just melodramatic nonsense — but sadly reflective of the narrative trend on this thread.

Interestingly one the main NGO proponents for the ending of direct provision and the drivers of the new policy introduced in 2021 made a couple of submissions.

One of the main things was that all local authority input would be removed from the decision making on where to set up the migrant camps in communiites

Seems they got exactly what they wanted in Galway.

https://connachttribune.ie/galway-city-councillors-kept-in-the-dark-on-refugee-centre-plans/