Tesla Talk

Does Tesla publish the intervention rates for FSD?

Talk to any Tesla technician and they will tell you there is daylight between the quality of the MIC and the Fremont cars. I do accept though US manufactured cars have had significant improvements in quality in recent years.

Not really sure what those German stats are meant to represent, but the JD Power is quite telling given it covers the larger US market.

People have coped on

Its fantasy self driving at this stage

Certainly at the price they charge in regions where it can be used properly, and where theres no radar or lidar. I genuinely am intrigued by FSD, but real FSD where I can drive to the pub, have 10 pints and the car can drive me home, legally and on the insurance of the manufacturer not mine - since I'm not driving I cant be liable.

Tesla FSD is a money making sham, even the US videos of people who have the beta and have tested the waymo driverless cabs (that exist today and are in operation) say its night and day. Waymos cars are driving themselves as we speak with no driver and with customers in the back seat. Just like the example I describe above. You can be drunk and get in the back.

Yep the way it's marketed is a scam

It's a driving aid like cruise control or auto parking, that's it, its never gonna drive you home on it's own legally, it's a fairytale to believe so

Only way any FSD will ever work is if humans are banned from driving alongside computers, with chaos theory humans can't be trusted

I fully expect a city to be FSD with the only cars on the road being controlled by computers, humans and machine will never drive alongside each other legally imo.

Nobody is watching a few vids from my recent link then? 😂

And yes, FSD is a grossly inappropriate term for what Tesla are selling. The cars with FSD are level 2 autonomous driving, same as a boggo €40k Model 3 with standard "auto pilot". The software is beta and Tesla is not taking any responsibility. The driver is responsible at all times.

That said, the cars can and do fully drive themselves. If you don't believe me, just watch those videos. Seriously.

All the recent iterations of FSD I have watched are from sunny states where the roads are wide, no roundabouts, done in daytime driving, no rain, good road markings, few pedestrians. Even with all those things in it's favour it's not good. It's quite hesitant. Regularly **** the bed. Place it in europe where generally streets are much narrower, lots of pedestrians, lots of 'jaywalking' , zebra crossings, motorbikes, electric scooters, cyclists, regular varying levels of precipitation, more road sign variations, sometimes poor road markings, it's going to fail miserably.

A camera only system will never achieve FSD. More sensors like 360 lidar, USS, and UHD cameras are needed. Lidar sensors are currently quite expensive and only fitted to some high priced cars, when the cost reduces in the years to come we might see more progression in this area.

In saying that though I would never want to use FSD for driving in this chaotic world, there are too many variables and probabilities to trust it. I would trust being a passenger in the likes of a waymo taxi in a city where speed limits are max 40km/h.

I don't even like being in a commercial airplane with a low/zero vis autoland. And they keep traffic separation of a number of kilometres. Plus usually two monitoring in the cockpit and a team on the ground.

I don't wish to be in a self driving car often only a foot or so from other vehicles..

Yeah but don't give any drink to the robot-they’ll start a row in a second, nothing worse than a rowdy robot!, 🤖🦾

Yes you would be terminated!🤕