Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings and threadbans - updated 11/5/24*

Exactly. It is a massive issue.

And by the way has been for years.

But the issue is mainly down to mismanagement of resources not just refugees.

As to the rest which you quote there in bold , there are, and have been, many, many posts saying just that on the other side of the debate.

Totally over the top you will agree?

He is entitled to paraphrase in reply to other posters without being accused of saying something which he patently did not.

How many ways does the same thing need to be stated?

Housing is a multifaceted issue but supply and demand underpins every other aspect. If you can think of an aspect that is ameliorated by increased demand, go ahead and state it.

He can paraphrase anyone he likes, my issue is the lazy smearing and amalgamation of people who have concerns with immigration with people who have made no such remarks.

Lots of talk about housing and accommodation but it has to be kept in mind that the entire population of 5m people is creating demand for housing and accommodation. Constantly linking these shortages to EU citizens and refugees is missing the point. Literally everyone in the country is putting pressure on housing, schools, hospital waiting lists, infrastructure etc.

Thinking that stopping people from entering the country would somehow make these problems go away is a bit deluded : Ireland had a housing and homeless crisis in the middle of the recent recession when net migration was at zero for four consecutive years (have people forgotten all the RTE News reports at the time about families being put up in hotels?)

Which cultures do you mean?

I see you speak about Afghanistan, why do you think we have refugees from Afghanistan? What would you suspect they did that made them have to leave Afghanistan recently?

What cultures are violent and have mediaeval attitudes to women? Genuinely interested in your reply

Jaysus thats tripe right there, they are leaving to make a better life for themselves and they are bringing the baggage of woman are second class and people like me who are gay thedespised, all you have to do is look at how parts of uk are doing with the influx of people of the same mind, fair play to you for preaching that everything will de dandy but what comes to mind is the "comical ali nothing to see here everything is fine meme", I would love you to be right we could be the outliner but looking right across Europe it's a no for me, this gay ain't going back into the closet for no person who values me as a sub human.

Are you replying to my post? You could do it correctly so we would all know.

Who are basically all men exactly?

Who thinks you're subhuman exactly?

Once again. Nobody is saying refugees have caused the housing crisis. This is a strawman. One you’ve continuously brought up on this thread.

Of course the entire population of Ireland is creating demand for housing - they’re the people of this country, it’s the most normal thing in the world.

Increasing that demand massively by increasing our population so rapidly in such a short space of time is only exacerbating pre-existing problems. Do you deny that?

I live in one of those small towns, no public transport one shop and a post office.

Over 150 Ukrainians here and nowhere for them to go.

Do you think the EU citizens coming here from other EU countries should be vetted to be allowed enter the country?

And the I'm gay to get in the door here is well abused, as for subhuman it's mentally of certain people and religons that are coming here that think gays are sub human, have you talked to any of these men arriving in from Asia/Africa and asked them how they feel towards Women/gays? Its a known fact in certain countries we are treated as subhuman

As for the far right jaysus rent free is all I see here.

Honestly Cuddihy on Newstalk seemed to suggest keeping less Visa driven immigration in to allow for space for "people fleeing war".

How about we remove non visa migrants to clear room for genuine cases.

What is your base period for the claim homophobia is growing?

As strange as the White Knight and 'morally bullying people into silence' outbursts are — you didn't actually address any of my points. In fact, you're even responding to things I have never said. I certainly never said people were "calling out immigration exclusively on issues such as housing". The thrust of my point is that blaming refugees being here as a crucial reason as to why the housing crisis is happening is disproportionate and I gave my reasons why. All you did in response was to dip into the playbook of rehearsed lines like "White Knight" which are always inevitably wheeled out in discussions like this.

I'm not here to hold your hand and massage your opinions. You were the one who made the point about "petrol being poured on the flames" right? And you said this in the context of refugees and the housing crisis, right? So I have every right to set out the reasons why I don't agree with this. If you have a counter argument, I'm all ears, or you can fire out some more White Knight whining.

It doesn't seem to matter how many times I or anyone else repeats the point that housing and other issues have numerous inputs that contribute to their current state, some lost soul always comes along and whines that immigration is not the only cause or starts faux swooning about the nasty people that said things.

You appear to also claim that there is little or nothing that can be done about immigration or refugees which is completely untrue as well.