The wondrous adventures of Sinn Fein (part 3) Mod Notes and Threadbanned List in OP

Interesting and wrong take.

If the PIRA had been successful in murdering the elected head of state of a member of the UN Security Council, then all bets would be off.

Soft American support would have dried up as would their finance. The British public, outraged that their PM would be murdered in such a fashion and while not all may have liked her, they would have taken it as a direct attack on their freedoms and would have backed a much more ruthless campaign against the PIRA

This would have resulted in a tripling down of the British Security force's war on the PIRA, with American, and European pressure on the Irish government to come down much harder on the PIRA/SF.

The SF lads complain about the dirty war. If Thatcher had been murdered it would have been ten times worse, with loyalist killing squads working hand in hand to kill as many IRA men as they could find.

In other words, what went on covertly in the late 80s and 90s but the gloves well and truly taken off. Gerry Adams would certainly have been killed.

In summary, PIRA/SF are very lucky this didn't happen because most of them would have died in the resulting backlash.

It's hardly news though, is it? I don't disagree that it's a pretty cold and callous way to phrase things, but given the reaction to her death, I don't think he's really that wrong; there were in fact very few tears shed in parts of Ireland and the UK.

As lacking in class as it may have been, there were in fact street parties celebrating it, 'Ding Dong the Witch is Dead' went to number one in the charts in response. Whatever you may think of her personally, it is indisputable that the woman was absolutely reviled in many parts of the UK and Ireland in a way that goes far beyond even most political leaders.

I can't disagree with @markodaly's take on what the response would've been like, though I'm not sure it would've been quite so effective at wiping out the Provo threat; British brutality was the best recruitment tool they ever had.

I'm not so sure the impact on money from the US would've been quite as substantial as you are. The cognitive dissonance required for that funding to exist in the first place makes me think that there is little that could've happened this side of the Atlantic that would've caused it to dry up.

100% agree with you regarding expectations should the GFA not have predated 9/11 though.

The Brighton Bombing was in 1984, so the premise of anything about it through the lens of a post-9/11 USA is pretty redundant, Mark.

I fully agreed with you that through the post-9/11 lens, everything changes. My premise was that should the bombing have killed Thatcher, I don't reckon that would've been the end of US funding for the Provos.

she didn't show any empathy or respect for the millions she put into indefinite poverty, their towns in terminal decline.

or the individuals who, lets face it, the dogs on the street know she had taken out because they protested against nuclear weapons.

or striking miners and other protesters who she had agents infiltrate to cause trouble and then had them beat to a pulp by police among all sort of other horiffic stuff surrounding all of protest groups.

she deserved nothing, she deserves nothing.

not sure upsetting her own people is the right people ultimately.

she closed britain's own coal mines but bought lower grade coal which used slave labour at twice the price so as to funnel money to a communist regime, while (all be it rightly) spouting about the ills of communism.

They will make the usual one for everyone in the audience vague statements with so many dog whistles for the left, center and right it will be like watching a box set of classic episodes of "One man and his dog". But deep down their core membership are hard left and more importantly the Army Council are hard left. They won't shift from that.

MacDonald on Sunday Politics bladdering on about a border poll.

A border poll is the last thing on most people's mind at the moment.

Nothing to say about SF voters saying we are taking too many migrants in.

Quite the group that SF TD Mairead Farrell is involved with…… can’t imagine she went to party HQ for approval before agreeing to participate. Galway Alliance Against War is a big fan of shilling Russian propaganda and doesn’t even try to hide it

Very disappointing to see Catherine Connolly involved as well.

Hmm communists terrorists and imbeciles all in one room . hope nothing bad happens

Census 2022

Population over 65 increased by 138k (21%) since 2016. Old age dependency ratio increased from 20% to 23%. (my calculations - open to correction)

How's that "demographics will take care of themselves" approach to pensions plans working out for Mary Lou?

The poster running 12 accounts got banned.