Phillip Schofield steps down from ITV after affair with "much younger male"

The 3 weeks work directly lead to him ending up at ITV / This Morning, with credits and a patron like that on his CV.

A year later when he was 20. Surely the time for a coercive sexual deviant to strike would be a year previously when he was 19 or younger?

Also what makes you think it was Schofield who made the initial advances?

I mean a minted "famous" millionaire who would have easily passed for being a much younger man surely would have his pick without the decades long ruse?

Either way there is absolutely zero tangible evidence that Schofield got the lad hired in return for sexual favours.

That is just all sorts of defamatory.

Your post bears no relation to what I wrote.

In an earlier post I wrote: "Given how hard it is to establish such things, that is why organisations have codes of conducts about affairs between people in different positions \ authority."

You ignored that and invented up some 'coercive sexual deviant' scenario in your head, as if I came up with it - then start accusing my posts of being defamatory??? That is total strawmanning.

Well, if Schofield has been defamed by ITV getting rid of him, he should sue. Because they investigated allegations of a relationship and Schofield denied the relationship. This implies there was something inappropriate about it professionally if such a relationship was a reality.

The relationship was totally inappropriate for his position, putting himself in a place where he could further the career of someone he appears to have had his eye on. Whoever made the first move, Schofield shouldn't have gone there with a This Morning junior employee he was instrumental in getting hired - because it put him in a position where the relationship and someone else's career was tied together.

There is nothing defamatory about suggesting the junior employee in such an imbalanced relationship may feel pressure - it is the basis for employee code of conducts in organisation after organisation.

And if he could have had his pick of many partners, all the reason not to get involved in an inappropriate relationship at work - especially someone you've been a patron of since they were 15 if not younger.

Or if the 50 yr old is a fine thing..... George Clooney anyone.........

Your post bears no relation to what I wrote

Ah you likened him to "Hollywood Casting Directors".

Which "coercive sexual deviant" covers, unless you meant something else?

So yes unless you have tangible proof that is indeed potentially defamatory.

Define what you meant by "Hollywood Casting Directors" so?

I'd call them coercive sexual deviants, I think that is rather mild but a definition most people would agree with, but not you for some reason.

valid point :)

When I was 18 I would have got up on the crack of dawn.

Interviewed on GB News and as reported by The Daily Mail (some posters will just ❤️ my source references).😂 Former ITV director Ian McCulloch says:

”There’s so much more to come out with this story ”

Meh- maybe bullying or bitch festing accusations or taking advantage of employer or something but I would have thought the major news on this story has broken at this stage.

Holmes’ is a toerag with how he’s behaving here

For one thing, I said similar to. I did not say exactly like eg Harvey Weinstein.

The general point of concern is about creating opportunities for possible sexual exploitation through power imbalance, where someone feels their career is being assisted because of sexual relationship. This is why professional codes of conduct are important.

Yeah but the thing is you'd expect the 50 yo to have more feckin cop on.

You can be attracted to someone and find them charismatic or whatever but that doesn't mean you act on it.

At 20 you are still a child,ok technically you are an adult and legal, however from a life experience, sexual experience you're still a child in comparison to a 50yo.

While a 20 yo might feel they know exactly what they are doing, emotionally they really aren't mature enough to be dealing with this type of relationship.

I'm not 50 , but the idea even now scoring a 20 yo is meh, even when I was 30 the idea was meh!!!

Half your age + 8 is a good guideline to follow for the most part.

It’s all down to human nature: people love it when successful and influential and powerful people fall from grace. We all can exhibit that begrudging trait.

Way more nasty than Schofield's behaviour we are aware of with regard to the junior employee, his colleagues and wife? Nope, not seeing it.

You should probably consider what is motivating the ex-colleagues people 'badgering' Schofield now.

I’m a slow learner 🤪

Similar to Harvey Weinstein, that's okay so. 😂

Professional codes of conduct are not infallible, work colleagues have been fúcking each other forever and it will continue forever. Very very few of them would be "similar" to Harvey Weinstein.

But yeah catnip for Internet Karen.

Zero specifics?

Also

An ITV spokesperson said: “We are sorry to read Dr Ranj’s post today. At ITV we are fully committed to providing every opportunity for anyone who works with us to raise any concern or comments they may have.

“Following a complaint made by Dr Ranj, we appointed an external and independent adviser to carry out a review. This external review found no evidence of bullying or discrimination.”

Yeah but that sho1te doesn’t interest me- feels too much like reading about a workplace issue 😀

Comedy gold

You continually downplay this aspect with your language.

Similar to Harvey Weinstein?

🙄

What narrative?

Serious allegation was made in the workplace, that workplace took that allegation to external independent review? Hardly any sort of evidence of a toxic culture, opposite if anything.

You do realise employees can be troublesome díckheads too right?

Sure the workplace culture was all happy, which is why we now see some more ex employees coming forth to speak about it.

Did they investigate it as seriously as they investigated Schofield's affair with the junior employee?

The one which has now been shown to be true?

This is what I actually wrote:

Harvey Weinstein's actions are part of the reason why such power imbalances are viewed rightly with suspicion. That doesn't mean all such relationships are of the same nature as Weinstein, or that what happened with Schofield was of the same order BUT it means the difficulty in determining that means the safest course to protect both parties is for them to be forbidden.

'emotional hyperventilating' - pretty obvious sign you've run out of actual points to make when you have to resort to this and picking out one liners from other people's posts to misrepresent.

There is more than just an affair for Phil, it seems the words bullying, taking advantage, toxic work environment, cover up, lies, grooming, etc., all been talked about, his agent, friends, colleagues, ITV, charities etc., are all distancing themselves, I think there is more to come out

If this was someone else, it would a major talking point on This Morning and Loose Women

I don't think you can equate Phil with Caroline Flack and be kind but I am sure someone will compare and use mental health depression

Holmes, Wootton, Holly and so on are just back tracking as they knew and went along with everything, all the praise for Phil is his now we know staged big coming out reveal show

Well that's my take on it, my opinion

Sure, tell the HR and legal departments that draw up such codes of conduct they are in la la land.

They just drew them up for the craic, not because companies were left dealing with the fall out when such things turn sour, like sexual harassment and misconduct cases.

Eh I'm not obsessed, it is one of the points of this case. It is not irrelevent. It speaks to the pattern of behaviour.

I have never come across roles being traded for that. I don't know what industry you work in but all I can say is that I have not.

I didn't say everything was abuse what I said was due to the difficulty of determining what was abuse and wasn't, that is why there's codes of conducts that such relationships should not be permitted. Such trading can run the range from relatively benign to the realm of Harvey Weinstein. We don't know exactly where on that spectrum this case falls.

I would also add, the impact on other colleagues where they see another employee advanced because of such relationship rather than on professional merit can be a factor in creating a 'toxic' workplace.

Another reason companies prohibit them.

ITV has instructed a barrister to carry out an external review of the facts following Phillip Schofield's departure from This Morning and subsequent press statements, chief executive Dame Carolyn McCall has said in a letter seen by the PA news agency.