Garda Staff - Removal from Civil Service

Crikey

Up to a few weeks ago I was able to view the mobility map via the link on this page but it's not working for me anymore. Would anyone have a different link please?

A bit off topic, but can you give examples of where the forsa merger has been a disaster and why?

Can see it been a disaster down the line in my own department

If true, 6 years service of a bolt on should be at least 10 years to fall inline with what currently the difference of years between Gardaí and civil service years of service are 30 and 40 years.

Would flexi time and shorter working year be still on the cards if the change occurs? There could be a mass exodus in mobility if the benefits are not transferred.

Im not sure what incentive needs to be brokered between the Unions and the Gardai if the civilian staff are to be moving under command by the Garda Commissioner. Certainly a favourable approach must be discussed to retain staff before any action is taken, this would be to allow the Civilian staff the option to accept or move out via mobility if they do not agree with the terms. This movement may drag on for years as it all ready was discussed a number of years ago.

Second reading commenced last Wed https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates/debate/dail/2023-02-22/23/

Not much in the way of submissions so far regarding the concerns of Garda staff, apart from Aodain O Riordain. It seems part of the problem, as can be seen reflected in the local issue matters and personal/vested interest submissions of most deputies, is that whilst the bill as a whole as part of the the process of a badly needed reform of AGS is broadly welcomed by practically all deputies. However, a casualty of that legislation and this bill is that the genuine concerns of garda staff risk being lost in a drive for the "greater good"

Sincere apologies if this is in the incorrect thread but I literally can’t get any info from payroll.

So currently a CO ( Garda Staff ) and receive a 25% shift allowance.

Informed yesterday that I was successful in the internal Garda Staff EO competition. I am being told informally that I cannot be paid less than my current salary and that includes the shift allowance as I’m still under the umbrella of Dept of Justice, however I cannot find any paper / circular to support this.

I have until close of business Monday to make a decision or be removed from the panel. So basically from the time of getting notice I’ve been given 48 hrs to say yay or nay, and I can’t get anyone to tell me what salary I will potentially move to ….. HELP PLEASE

Take the promotion, you'll be on a higher wage than currently on with the shift. You may have to spend time on an off point before going onto an actual point on the EO scale but you definitely won't be worse off.

Congrats on the promotion. I went for the same competition and didn't get past the aptitude tests.

Not really, the communication has been horrendous. I heard that the implementation is behind so might end up being more like July '24, not Jan '24.

Lots and lots of people moving out of the Guards to other departments. So might be a good time to get out if you can.

The whole thing makes so little sense. When it does come in, it will mean 3 streams of people in the one organisation. 1. Garda Members. 2. New staff hired after the start date will immediately be Public Servants. 3. Existing staff will remain Garda Staff until it is all signed-off and agreed with Unions, which might take a year or two.