Andrew Tate

The promises of sex, money and a lavish lifestyle.

Years ago chancers like this lad wouldn't have had the platform but nowadays the platforms are there if you can tap into the usual human emotions/desires.

Social media algorithms massively amplify the likes of that twat

In a more rational world he'd be making videos in his mammy's basement to an audience of three followers, one of whom has keyboard face from falling asleep

I do not think there is any one answer to how to protect young men from turning to such frauds. If we manage it - it will probably be through a holistic and multi pronged approach.

I guess the first prong of such an approach would be to promote in any way we can - more wholesome role models. So that even if there are frauds like Tate they are against a wider backdrop of better choices. Like them or loathe them - podcasters like Rogan, Jokko and even Blindboy are role models for young men that are not toxic and promote messages not likely to lead men to bad places in their lives.

A second prong I guess is to do anything we can as a society to alleviate the pressures of modern day life on parents. So that they have more time and resources to put into actually parenting. Some local problem kids - and they really were a problem to the point of even physically accosting and intimidating little old women for lolz - near me turned around when I stepped in and started teaching them to be "Jedi" (sorta). They ultimately were not bad kids of "irredeemable" as some locals described them. They were just lost. Now they are absolute sweet hearts to be honest.

But the rise of Tates and Petersons and so on does show that there is a definite need and a desire there. It's feeding into some hole in the lives of young men.

The who? I strongly suspect you have me mixed up with someone else. I have no idea who or what a Happy Pear is? I do remember a rather comical Terry Pratchett line about someone having a face like a Happy Apple. Is that in any way related?

"Nanny stood up and tried to look haughty, which is hard to do when you have a face like a happy apple." - Terry Pratchett.

Oh good good. You can probably go back and edit the quote.

I was worried there for a minute I was losing my mind. If I go google who or what you were talking about - am I going to hate you? :) Straight away from the name alone I am suspecting Vegans/Vegetarians are in play? Vegan I most certainly am not given the sheer quantity of meat I eat and I even catch and cook wild rabbit and my garden currently contains the geese we will be eating for Christmas which we have named "Succulent" and "Tasty Bean". :)

Joe Rogan is anything but benign. If anything he's more pernicious because his racism, homophobia and misogyny are more subtle.

It must be subtle if I can listen to countless hours of his content without noticing or spotting any of it. I certainly disagree on many topics he touches - but that is only natural. I think he is quite often simply wrong on many things. Sometimes amazingly wrong. But I have yet to hear anything that fits your description here. Nor have I heard anything hateful or extreme either.

No one is perfect but from the content I have heard over the years I think young men listening to Rogan are much more likely to be influenced in a positive way than listening to someone like Tate. And if you were to place these media types on a continuum from perfect to horrific - then for all his many many flaws I would suspect even J.Peterson lies much further along the continuum towards Rogan than he does Tate. Young men could do worse than listening to Jokko too.

That is all from a very limited knowledge of Tate though. I know very little about the guy save what I have picked up by following this thread. Which really is not much but probably more than I care to know already.

Ah yes, the "woke" which is basically what gets yelled at people who call out someone elses bullshit.

Andrew Tate has shown himself countless times to be a dangerous, grifting individual and when he gets deplatformed "oh oh oh WOKE it's the WOKES! WOKES CANCELLING!"

Guy could take a turd on some peoples carpets while railing their missus and they wouldn't get angry because Tate would be screaming "WOKE!" as he done it.

T'wud be a very boring world if all we had was groupthink. While I mightn't agree with eejits like the creater of the Proud Boys or Alex Jones or vaccine conspiracy theorists (although sometimes they make valid points), I don't agree with them being silenced.

Is it really far worse?

BINGO!

Leave him alone, he's just doing God's work.

I dont think Tate is particularly anti woke like he doesnt complain about the little mermaid movie, his shtick is more alpha male dominate women BS.